AK47 history?

Monkeyleg

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I'm doing a little "arguing" about guns with some anti's that I went to high school with. I want to get into the "assault weapon" issue, and want to give them a little historic background. Can anyone tell me when the AK47 was first introduced, and what Kalishnakov's first name was? Also, does anyone know the model designation of the German's WWII assault rifle?

Thanks in advance,
Dick
 
The AK-47 was first produced in 1947 but did not enter service until 1949.
Kalashnikov's first name is Mikhail.
The German WWII assault rifle was the MP-44 it was called the "Sturmgewehr" or assault rifle.
 
The AK-47 was developed out of the experience the Russians had facing the Germans during WW2; German designers had started asking themselves why they were giving their soldiers rifles that could be used at distances up to 2 kilometres, when you never saw someone at that range on a battlefield. Out of that fact, they reasoned that you could have an "intermediate" power cartridge that was lighter and less powerful, yet still be effective at most true battlefield distances. Eventually, that round ended up being the 8mm Kurz ("8mm Short", or 8x33mm), chambered in first, the MP43 and 44, and then the Sturmgewehr/Stg 44. One of the oddities of the history of this class of firearms is that it's believed that Hitler himself coined the term; "Sturmgeweher" translates to "storming rifle", or "assault rifle", but that's what Hitler called it after he found that they had been put into production against his orders. He was in favour of the MP38/40 9mm submachineguns, but figured that the intermediate-power rifle cartridge was a waste of time and resources, and he told the designers to drop it. However, they knew they had a good thing going, and continued development under the name of "MP43" ("Maschinenpistole 43") to hide the truth from a guy who liked stringing his enemies up with piano wire. When glowing reports started coming back from the East on the effectiveness of the MP43s, Hitler wanted lots more built yesterday, and the designers knew they couldn't hide the truth from him anymore. It was apparently at this point that Hitler coined the term "Sturmgewehr", to differentiate it from the true submachine gun. Since the Russians were on the receiving end, they had good reason to appreciate the selective-fire firepower, compact size, and savings in resources that the Stg44 represented, and Mikhail Kalashnikov adapted the same concepts to Russian manufacture. The "47" in AK-47 (which stands for "Automat Kalashnikov, Model of 1947) was the year of official adoption, but front-line Russian troops weren't armed with them until the early 1950's; they got by with Moisin-Nagants, SKSs, and various SMGs until a full issue took place.
 
Thanks for the replies. Another question, if you'll indulge me: were semi-auto versions of the real assault weapons always available, or did Colt, IMI, Norinco and other companies just start marketing the semiauto's when civilian demand surfaced?

Dick
 
http://kalashnikov.guns.ru/mk.html

Kalashnikov was born on November 10, 1919, in the village of Kurya, Altai Territory, to a
large peasant family. After finishing the 9-th form of a secondary school M T.
Kalashnikov went to work in the Matai depot as an apprentice and was subsequently a
technical clerk in the employ of a Turkistan-Siberian railway department. In 1938 M T.
Kalashnikov was called up for Red Army, served in a special military region in Kiev,
there he finished the tank mechanical school.

During the service in army he devised an inertia revolution
counter to register the number of actual shots from a tank
gun, made a special appliance for the "TT" pistol to inhance
fire effectiveness through tank turret slits and designed a
tank running time meter.

In June, 1941 Mikhail Timofeevitch with his last invention was
directed by the Commander-in-Chief general G.K. Zhukov to
Leningrad to implement his recent invention. With the
beginning of The Great Patriotic War senior sergeant M T.
Kalashnikov participated in battles with fascists as a
commander of the tank. In October, 1941 in fierce battles
under Bryansk he was heavily wounded and shell-shocked.
While in hospital, Mikhail Timofeevitch concieved the idea of
a submachine gun. Later while on a six-month sick leave he arrived at the station Matai. He
carried out his idea in depot's workshops with the help of the leadership and comrades.
When the submachine gun was ready M T. Kalashnikov was directed to Moscow Aviation
Institute, which had been evacuated to Alma-Ata.

In June, 1942 the second model of a Kalashnikov submachine gun was developed in
workshops of the institute. This very model was sent for a reference to Dzerzhinsky Ordnance
Academy. The outstanding soviet scientist in the field of shooting arms A. A. Blagonravov took
an interest in the Kalashnikov submachine gun. Though he didn't recommend the
submachine gun for service, the talent of the inventor, originality in the decision of a lot of
technical questions were highly estimated by him and as a result Blagonravov made
everything to direct the self-taught-designer to study. Since 1942 M. T. Kalashnikov served in
Central Research Small Arms Range of the Main Ordnance Directorate of the Red Army.

In 1944 Kalashnikov developed an experimental model of the self-loading carbine, it's main
units became the base for a creation of a new submachin gun in 1946 which gained a brilliant
victory in difficult competitive tests. In 1949 after completion the automatic device was
adopted by the Soviet Army, and senior sergeant M.T. Kalashnikov was awarded by the Stalin
Price First Class.

Since 1949 Mikhail
Timofeevitch has been living
and working in Izhevsk. He
went through a way from a
self-taught-inventor up to
the General Designer of
small arms in the Soviet
Army.

A range of the unified models
of automatic small arms
developed by Kalashnikov
was addopted by the Soviet
Army in 1950.

The Goverment highly
estimated M. T. Kalashnikov's
serveces to the country. He
was twice honoured as Hero
of Socialist Labour (1958 and 1976) and became Stalin Prize (1949) and Lenin Prize (1964)
laureate. In 1969 he was given the rank of Colonel and in 1971 awarded degree of Doctor of
engineering science. M. T. Kalashnikov was decorated with three Orders of Lenin, Order of the
Red Banner of Labour, Order of the Great Patriotic War of the First Class, Order of the Red Star
and many medals.

Since 1980 M. T. Kalashnikov has been a citizen of honour in his native village of Kurya. His
bronze bust was placed there as he was twice awarded Hero of Socialist Labour. In 1987 he
became a honourable citizen of Izhevsk.

The President of Russia B.N. Eltsin personally decorated the outstanding designer M. T.
Kalashnikov with the Order "For Distinguished Services for the Motherland" Second Class and
promoted him to Major-General to his 75th anniversary.

The submachine guns of the Kalashnikov system are widespread all over the world. Some
countries have included its image in the State Emblem. Under the items of information
available in the literature to the midst of 1990 there were made about 70 millions units of
Kalashnikov submachine guns of various modifications both in our country and abroad
including those made under license and piratically (till nowadays the invention has not been
patented).

Since 1949 Mikhail Timofeevitch has been living and working in Izhevsk. He went through a
way from a self-taught-inventor up to the General Designer of small arms in the Soviet Army.

A range of the unified models of
automatic small arms
developed by Kalashnikov was
addopted by the Soviet Army in
1950.

The Goverment highly
estimated M. T. Kalashnikov's
serveces to the country. He was
twice honoured as Hero of
Socialist Labour (1958 and 1976)
and became Stalin Prize (1949)
and Lenin Prize (1964) laureate.
In 1969 he was given the rank of
Colonel and in 1971 awarded
degree of Doctor of engineering
science. M. T. Kalashnikov was
decorated with three Orders of Lenin, Order of the Red Banner of Labour, Order of the Great
Patriotic War of the First Class, Order of the Red Star and many medals.

Since 1980 M. T. Kalashnikov has been a citizen of honour in his native village of Kurya. His
bronze bust was placed there as he was twice awarded Hero of Socialist Labour. In 1987 he
became a honourable citizen of Izhevsk.

The President of Russia B.N. Eltsin personally decorated the outstanding designer M. T.
Kalashnikov with the Order "For Distinguished Services for the Motherland" Second Class and
promoted him to Major-General to his 75th anniversary.

The submachine guns of the Kalashnikov system are widespread all over the world. Some
countries have included its image in the State Emblem. Under the items of information
available in the literature to the midst of 1990 there were made about 70 millions units of
Kalashnikov submachine guns of various modifications both in our country and abroad
including those made under license and piratically (till nowadays the invention has not been
patented).

The cause of such great popularity of Kalashnikov submachine guns is in fact that Mikhail
Timofeevitch has achieved an optimum combination of a number of qualities which provide
the usage of guns with high efficiency of application and exclusive reliability in battles.
 
To answer your question, Civilian and Military demand are no different to the gun. Semi-Automatic and Automatic mechanisms are virtually identical and very little in the way of modifications or adaptations are necessary to convert one to another. This doesn't apply to open-bolt guns which are much more difficult to modify to fire semi-automatically.

Your question assumes that there are necessarily different versions. Semi-Automatic versions of closed-bolt automatic weapons are more like the difference between a Dodge Caravan and Plymoth Voyager.
 
A lot of companies that made military assault and battle rifles attempted to market a civillian version quite early. However, it seems there was little demand for them until they became targets of a ban. Examples would be the early "G series" FALs, the HK 41 (later "91") and 43(later "93"). You could probably also use the Polytech Legend series as an example.
 
Hi, Badger Arms. That much I _do_ know, having owned a full-auto Thompson and, ahem, having once played with the action on my AR. I guess what I was trying to do was get a feeling for the military style semi-auto craze as to when it started. I know that, for me, it was when Miami Vice and all the action movies came out in the early eighties. Prior to that I don't remember seeing AR's, AK's or any of the others on dealer shelves.

Dick
 
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