(AK) Mayor would let residents possess machine guns

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You don't hear much about Alaska, but when you do, it's a doozey.

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WUERCH FIRES AT POLICY
MAYOR WOULD LET RESIDENTS POSSESS MACHINE GUNS

By Karen Aho
Daily News Reporter

Fulfilling a campaign promise he made to gun owners, Mayor George Wuerch has proposed a way for Anchorage citizens to legally buy machine guns, short-barreled shotguns, silencers and hand grenades.

The weapons are permitted under federal law, but only for people who have been cleared by their local police department. For much of the past two decades, sitting police chiefs in Anchorage have refused to review the federal application forms, saying they don't want to be held liable should the gun owner use the weapon in a crime.

Wuerch, a retired Marine and a National Rifle Association member, on Friday proposed that a citizen board review and sign off on the forms instead. It is the first board he has proposed since taking office July 1.

"I do not like the federal regulation," Wuerch said at a press conference Friday. "It's another encroachment on the right to buy and sell arms."

Wuerch said he was assured by the municipal attorney that the city would not be liable under his proposal.

The proposed ordinance would not take effect unless approved by the Anchorage Assembly. A public hearing has not yet been scheduled.

Anchorage Police Chief Duane Udland said Friday that as the proposal is written, the city could be "reasonably certain that the person will not use (the weapon) for unlawful purposes." He referred other questions to the mayor's office.

The subject is a hot-button issue among police agencies. In Alaska, departments are split on whether or not they will review the applications. Residents, who are required to go to their local agency, are at the whim of what some say boils down to political philosophy.

To many in law enforcement, it's a matter of public safety, said Terry Vrabec, chief of the University of Alaska Fairbanks Police Department.

"I don't think there would be anyone that wouldn't be concerned about what weapons we're allowing on the streets or seeing on the streets," said Vrabec, who is secretary of the Alaska Association of Chiefs of Police.

Alaska State Troopers refuse to process the forms. That means no one in state police jurisdiction can legally buy the weapons. Del Smith, deputy commissioner of the state Department of Public Safety, said he doesn't want the state signing off on the form.

" 'I, Del Smith, certify that this person is probably going to use this for lawful purposes' -- We think that's prospective and very difficult to predict," he said.

Police agencies say few people want to buy the weapons covered by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms regulation, which include guns disguised as pens or canes. Anchorage police get only "a handful" of requests a year, police Sgt. Richard Stouff said.

Fairbanks police, who get very few requests, do sign off on them after a review. Deputy Police Chief James Welch said studies show that legal buyers generally don't use the weapons to commit crimes.

"There's no requirement to do it for everyone. There's also no liability associated with it," he said.

The Wuerch administration said it heard complaints from gun owners that police chiefs here have showed favoritism. A citizen board, appointed by the mayor and approved by the Assembly, would alleviate any inequities, said Dennis Fradley, the mayor's director of external affairs.

The board would review the information required in the application and then decide whether to approve the federal form. Much of the information, such as an extensive criminal background check, would be compiled by police.

"This was a big issue at the gun show, during the campaign," Fradley said. "It is one of the commitments (Wuerch) made."

Reporter Tim Pryor contributed to this story. Reporter Karen Aho can be reached at kaho@adn.com.

Copyright © 2000 The Anchorage Daily News
 
I wonder if a whole 30rd mag's worth of 9mm from an H&K MP5 on full rock'n'roll will stop a Grizzly?

If this guy succeeds, we may one day find out :D.

Jim
 
Good for Wuerch! (1) He actually remembered his campaign promise, and (2) he is troubled by this transference of a right for a privilege.

This is a perfect example of what is wrong with licensing and registration. Once you submit to licensing, then, regardless of the how or why, some bureaucrat can simply deny your right because they are ... uncomfortable with your exercise of that right.

Why would any honest person resist licensing for free speech, computers, internet access ... ? Because licenses can be denied ...

This fellow has some juevos, and I wish him well.

Live and let live. Regards from AZ
 
Citizen review board! This is how it should be. Police are waaaay too biased on this issue most of the time. They often have paranoid dreams of class III owners hitting their headquarters with artillery and then machinegunning their squad cars, followed by a cleanup assault with those oh-so-illegal for most of us, MP5s....

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I twist the facts until they tell the truth. -Some intellectual sadist

The Bill of Rights is a document of brilliance, a document of wisdom, and it is the ultimate law, spoken or not, for the very concept of a society that holds liberty above the desire for ever greater power. -Me
 
Nevermind that more and more departments are being issued Class III weapons themselves...

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God, Guns and Guts made this country a great country!
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Residents, who are required to go to their local agency, are at the whim of what some say boils down to political philosophy.[/quote]

So nice to be treated as a child, isn't it!
"Mother, may I?"

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Just one of the Good Guys
 
Having lived in Alaska I can attest to the fact that guns are very important to survival . You get 3 miles out of town you may as well be a million miles away . Once in the service while on an Escape and Evasion manuever we were very close to a pack of wolves . I believe we were being tracked . Since live ammo is forbidden on these jaunts imagine our embarassment to discover that we all had at least 2 mags full of 7.62 in our packs . Oh the shame .
Had the wolves been hungrier they would have been deader . This is just to make the point that Alaska is a world of it's own . If you can trust a person with a Win. 94 then you can trust them with an AK-47 .

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TOM
SASS AMERICAN LEGION NRA GOA
 
Thing is though paratrooper, according to the park service, there has never been a recorded incident of a wolf pack attacking humans in anything but self defense. Predators give off certain scents because of the meats that they consume and therefore they have a distinct smell. Most predators will not hunt other predators when there are more convenient choices.

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I twist the facts until they tell the truth. -Some intellectual sadist

The Bill of Rights is a document of brilliance, a document of wisdom, and it is the ultimate law, spoken or not, for the very concept of a society that holds liberty above the desire for ever greater power. -Me
 
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