AK 47 fail

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The ak is supposed to be the most rugged assault rifle devise. Utterly reliable, Can be manufactured in a cave in Afganistan etc etc.

A friend of mine has one of those yugo or Romanian aks and it has fired out of battery, primer blowouts, primers flattening, deformed cases, and yesterday a broken case. I have learned by trying to help him with that the big shortcoming of trying to extract a broken steel case from a steel chamber. The metals can bond much easier than copper and steel.

After witnessing this I believe I will stick with my mini-thirty for that caliber.

I assume that is the US reciever that is the source of the problem but than again the myth/legend states that these guns have been made in caves with simple tools and a lathe.
 
is this with just one type of ammo or has the problem been with multiple types? i have an sks and have several friends with ak's and haven't experenced anything like what you describe. they from my experence are very reliable due to the simple nature of construction, my only problem with them has been the rounds i use and with one of the lacquer cases getting stuck when i didnt clear the weapon befor taking a break from shooting. im in no way an expert but it sounds like he got a gun that had been modified in a way that makes it very unsafe to shoot. im sure there are other people here that can help more but thats just what i think.
 
Oh puuuuhlease. One bad specimen says nothing about the platform as whole. One can with ease find examples of problematic rifles of just about any kind, AR's, Minis, etc. Dunno why using logic proves to be so challenging for people.
 
Reliability is predicated on the firearm being in spec. Something is not right in that particular weapon. Pictures of the casings that were damaged and knowing if it was all the same lot of ammo is a good start to help determine the proper course of action. Most likely it will need a gunsmith familiar with AK's. Post pictures if you can.
 
I have had the following rifles jam on me at one time or another:SKS, MAK-90, 5.45x39 converted saiga, ALL three of my AR-15's, 91/30 M/N and 98K. They are all just tools with moving parts that wear and mis-align themselves. I'm not shocked that they occasionally have a hiccup. What I look for is the frequency of those problems. I have had my SKS and Mak-90 since ~1990 in that time I have put 20,000 through them. I have had less than half dozen FTF or FTE's out of either rifle. I have not put as many rounds down range with my AR's, but they are still uber reliable.
 
it did it with both wolf and brown bear

the guy is stuck with a 450 dollar investment.

you shouldnt have to buy a chinese or russian built ak47 to get your reliability. if that is the case than you might as well admit that they are no more reliable than an m16 or m4.

i have owned many ruger mini14s and now have a minithirty and never experienced a catostrophic failure. I have owned at least 7 ar 15s and only experienced a catastrophic failure once which I blamed on some black hills reloaded ammo

i have never witnessed anything like what my friends gun has done in any semi-automatic i have ever owned. which in total would exceed at least 40 guns over my 25 years of gun ownership.

i still remember a show once where an uzi and an ak47 were tested in a close quarter combat scenario and it was the ak47 that jammed.
 
It is a tool/machine. Fix it. Or are you the kind of guy that goes out and buys a new car when the oil needs changed or the battery dies? Get it fixed. As far as the stuck case goes that seems to be an ammo related problem not a problem with the weapon.
 
Most of the newer production steel case (wolf, brown bear, silver bear etc.) use polymer coatings, not lacquer.

Stay away from lacquer if possible.
 
Obviously, there is something wrong with that weapon.
I have owned five different Kalashnikovs, including one I built myself from a parts kit using the screw build method. My Yugoslav UF was assembled from a parts kit by a pro builder, as was the Romanian G I used to own.
I have never experienced a jam of any kind in any of them.
My guess is headspace.
If you like your mini30, good for you...but I wouldn't trade my Yugoslav UF for two min30's. It is the most accurate AK I have owned.
 
well the guy got the gun almost new. And for several hundred rounds it did fine. One case I saw when the gun started acting up had an expanded shoulder fireformed to 1/8 inch longer than a properly fired case. I suspect myself that it is either a headspace problem that has developed over time, or that the gun is firing out of batter. However as the gun was doing fine when he first had it and he didnt attempt any modification than that would say the gun actually wore out after several hundred rounds.

Also with both brands of ammunition as well there was some severe primer blowouts and deformation.
 
The problem now with the AK's (and AR's too for that matter), is they are like the 1911's, everyone and their brother now makes one, and they are all "experts". Problem is, many of them arent, and especially the ones made in someones garage. You just never know what youre getting.

The AK's Ive had the best luck with, were originally made in the country of origin, and even if Century got a hold of them. Century just puts them in compliance, the barreled receivers are the important part, the other things can be dealt with if needed.

My most accurate and reliable AK's came from outside the country. My least accurate and reliable AK's were made or assembled here. To be fair, its been awhile since I bought a US made gun, and they may have improved, or not.


So, who "made" this gun?
 
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