Air rifle shots fired at mosque north of Chicago

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Could of put an eye out!!!Time for Quinn to add them to a state wide ban.
Air rifle shots fired at mosque north of Chicago
CHICAGO — Two shots fired from an air rifle damaged a mosque in a northern Chicago suburb, a Muslim civil liberties group said Saturday. No one was injured.
The shots damaged an outer brick wall of the Muslim Education Center in Morton Grove on Friday night shortly after worshippers observing the holy month of Ramadan broke their daily fast. A spokesman for Morton Grove police did not immediately return a call seeking comment.

"This is obviously an alarming situation," said Ahmed Rehab, director of the Chicago branch of the Council on American-Islamic Relations. "The weapon allegedly used in this incident is powerful enough to kill, and the projectiles reportedly came within inches of the head of the security guard on duty."

http://www.pjstar.com/free/x866123668/Air-rifle-shots-fired-at-mosque-north-of-Chicago

Within the City of Chicago, Firearms, BB guns, Paintball guns, Airsoft guns and any other form of gun or gun like device is illegal to have. You can still OWN them, but cannot keep them within city limits. it has been this way for a VERY long time. Long before "Airsoft guns" existed.
 
Within the City of Chicago, Firearms, BB guns, Paintball guns, Airsoft guns and any other form of gun or gun like device is illegal to have. You can still OWN them, but cannot keep them within city limits. it has been this way for a VERY long time. Long before "Airsoft guns" existed.
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MasterBlaster, are those your words or from the article? Either way, it is very wrong. Since July 2010 even handguns are legal to own inside the city limits with proper permits.
 
"put an eye out"
Some air rifles are extremely lethal out to a distance far beyond what many realize...

14+ grain "magnum" pointed pellet of only .177 in diameter leaving the muzzle at 1,200+ FPS is not a red ryder with a compass in the stock...

I have "brained" literally hundreds of pigs as well as hogs and never once have they done anything but drop to their knees DRT...

I have killed cats with CoM shots at 40+ yards using only an 8-10 grain pellet with a MV of only 1,000fps...

Don't underestimate the power and efficacy of modern "adult air rifles"...

Brent
 
Hotdogs, it's been a while since I've shot a high fps air rifle, am I just remembering wrong, or wouldn't the shooter have to be relatively close for them to hear the shots in an urban environment with a .177 or .22 cal air rifle?

I've never heard any of the more exotic large caliber air rifles fired though, so I suppose it may have been one of those.
 
I can say that a suppressed .22lr is far and away quieter than a high power "springer" although the sounds are distinctly different... The .22lr being a sharp crack report and the springer being a loud "BOINK"... I haven't heard any of the CO2 powered hot rods nor the big bore "ultra high power" air rifles shooting .308 etc like the Quackenbush models...

Brent
 
Air rifle damaging a brick wall?:rolleyes:

Even from 15 feet away, I know for a fact that a .22 pellet at 900 fps won't do anything, but leave a small mark, to a brick or concrete block wall. Sounds like someone in Chicago is "fibbing" a little.
 
I've got a Ruger Air Magnum rifle - it shoots a .22 caliber lead pellet at just under 1000fps. The specs say it should be around 1200fps but using a chrono the pellet actually averages out at 960fps between 10 different shots. Some break the 1000fps mark some are closer to 920fps. Regardless of the inconsistencies with muzzle velocity at 50 yards the air rifle is pretty accurate - about 3.5" off hand and 2" from a rest. That's enough to take head shots on rabbits.

The rifle is air piston/spring driven and when shot there is a "sproing" but also a "crack!" that is just as loud as any .22lr rifle. The difference is the lack of a sonic crack from the pellet's flight since its not supersonic. The pellets I shoot are Beeman Kodiak .22cal pellets. They weigh about 21 grains. That 21 grain .22 pellet sure is deadly on rabbits (even with just a vitals shot and not a head shot) and squirrels. Up close I've dispatched feral cats that had found themselves going into traps that were meant for coons on my property - with a single shot to the head.

While I don't believe this would be particularly lethal or capable of damaging a concrete wall from longer distances if the shots were made within 30 yards you could realistically take little chunks out of a concrete wall albeit they'd be really little. I highly doubt that they'd be lethal to a human being beyond 30 yards unless you manage to shoot them in the eye...

Now if we're talking about air pistols... well yeah those aren't lethal except at really close (face to face) ranges and then only if you shoot someone in an area of the head that's got a softer spot (like eye sockets/temple). A .177 caliber pellet flying at around 400fps is barely enough to take down a squirrel at close range.
 
Ah that might explain part of why I remember the ones I shot being so quiet, they were all CO2 powered. No sproing/boink.
 
Even from 15 feet away, I know for a fact that a .22 pellet at 900 fps won't do anything, but leave a small mark, to a brick or concrete block wall. Sounds like someone in Chicago is "fibbing" a little.
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I agree! This is a photo of what a .22lr CCI minimag round will do to a brick at 40 yards- coming from my 10/22 carbine 18.5 inch barrel. Note that the energy of this is easily atleast 3-4 times more powerful than a high-power .22 caliber pcp air rifle-

I'm skeptical that this was caused by an air rifle. Maybe a pre-charged large caliber rifle like the 707 Career pneumatic 9mm... but then again thats as loud as the real thing:confused:


-The lead splashes that didn't even chip the brick were from CCI Quiet ammo rated at 45 foot pounds. The deepest gouges were from the CCI minimags rated at around 145 foot pounds.

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I would be curious to know a bit more about the building. While I do not doubt that any damage done to the brick was minimal, there may have been greater damage due to the composition and age of the bricks themselves than you all are finding.

The Chicago area is noted for its brickwork in architecture. Specifically, old buildings would likely be a particular style of brick known as Chicago brick. Which would inevitably have a unique composition compared to any modern bricks, as the materials were all sourced locally. Also any remaining buildings with this brick are roughly a century old.
 
The air rifle had to be at least 50 feet from the brick structure. Probably more like 150 feet. It didn't damage the brick.
 
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