AG to revoke licenses in Massachusetts

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This from the Boston Globe (11-2-99)

AG seeks to pull most gun dealer licenses

By Meg Vaillancourt, Globe Staff, 11/02/99

ttorney General Thomas F. Reilly yesterday instructed police chiefs
across the state to revoke the licenses of most gun dealers to enforce
a state law banning home-based dealerships.

The instructions, included in a two-page letter sent to the chiefs, clarify a
1998 law banning the sale of guns from private homes. Of the 966 licensed
gun dealers in the Bay State, more than 700 were licensed home-based
dealers, state officials estimated.

Warning that dealers who operate out of their garages, basements, or
home-based offices ''are not an acceptable alternative'' to an illegal home
base, Reilly instructed police chiefs to review all state gun licenses issued by
their departments and to revoke permits made invalid by the new law.

''The Legislature provided no exception to the law,'' Reilly wrote.

Because so many gun dealers operate out of their homes, the law comes
close to promulgating a total ban on the sale of handguns in Massachusetts,
opponents said.

''It's irrelevant whether guns are sold in a fancy building that cost $2 million
or a separate space attached to the house, because all the state and federal
regulations still apply,'' said Mike Yacino of the Gun Owners Action League.

A strict gun control law passed by Massachusetts lawmakers last year
banned the sale of guns by home dealers as of Sept. 1. Citing confusion
about the language imposing the ban, many local law enforcement officials
have been reluctant to enforce it.

The bill, signed into law last July, states that all licensed firearms dealers
''shall maintain a permanent place of business that is not a residence or
dwelling'' where they can sell their guns.

However, gun groups are urging state legislators to amend the law even as
they work to overturn it in court. Opponents note, for example, that licensed
gunsmiths, who repair but do not sell weapons from their home, will be
forced to find new office space.

Critics also argue that dealers who sell from the same address as their home,
but have separate area where they conduct their business, should be allowed
to continue selling weapons as long as they are properly licensed and comply
with local zoning codes.

Massachusetts gun control advocates argue that forcing dealers to sell
weapons in commercial areas rather than from their homes makes law
enforcement easier.

''I'm a business person and a gun owner, and my interest is not in banning all
guns,'' said John Rosenthal, founder of Stop Handgun Violence, the
Newton-based group that championed the state's strict gun control measure
last year. ''The point is when you live in a residential neighborhood, you want
to be insulated from potentially dangerous businesses. And that's what this
law does.''

This story ran on page B02 of the Boston Globe on 11/02/99.
© Copyright 1999 Globe Newspaper Company.
 
''I'm a business person and a gun owner, and my interest is not in banning all guns,'' said John Rosenthal, founder of Stop Handgun Violence, the Newton-based group that championed the state's strict gun control
measure last year. ''The point is when you live in a residential neighborhood, you want
to be insulated from potentially dangerous businesses. And that's what this law does.''

Ummmm... now where have I heard that before.... Not in Banning guns... Lying sack of S???.



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Richard

The debate is not about guns,
but rather who has the ultimate power to rule,
the People or Government.
RKBA!
 
Thats unconstitutional and a good attorney can go along way with all of these - what 700 plus dealers who had there rights violated...
Not all lawyers are pond scum - there are a few who are worthy men.
The trick is to find these few.

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"A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." - Sigmund Freud
RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE
 
Yes, I agree ... another example of 'oh, but we don't want to take anyone's guns away!'.

But, you can't buy them here, and ... you can't carry it there, and ... it can't have these features, and ... you can't use that ammunition, and ... it has to cost a lot and can't be a 'Saturday Night Special', and ... you can only buy one each month, and ... it can't hold more than 10 bullets (or was that 5, or ??), and ... and ...

'But, we don't want to take anyone's guns away!'

I just love being stripped of my liberties, and being treated like an idiot at the same time. ;)

Come to Arizona - at least out here the gun owners don't usually act like this, and we can still spot the anti-self defense movement operatives.
 
to see just how bad this new law is out here go to:
http://www.goal.org

They have a full analysis of Chapter 180 posted. Here are some of the highlights:

A "firearm" is a handgun. Rifles and shotguns are the rest.

A shotgun, such as a Remingtom 870, that can hold over a certain number of rounds is an "assault weapon".

Ten years in jail for no trigger lock in a home with children.

Get the picture?
 
I wanted to revive this old thread. Mass is doing a good job on pissing off a lot of good "home based" gun dealers. This state sucks for everything. I can't wait to move to Florida (not just for the gun laws).

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"Are You Gonna Bark All Day Little Doggie, Or Are You Gonna Bite?"
 
Massachussets is a full blown Marxist Socialist Police State. (As several other states.) Marxist Socialists are a combination of communists, nazis, and fascists. Tyrants, dictators, all. The serfs and slaves have no rights, no freedom, no liberty. Big Brother and Big Nanny, rule all.

The Locomotives Continue Racing Toward Each Other. J.B.
 
It`s B.S. and it`s discriminatory.They should ban Amway too.All those home cleaning supplies are toxic.Everyone knows it.And maybe Girl Scout Cookies.Those things are dangerous.Look at all those calories!

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~Gordon~
 
It is tragic indeed when one of our states which was among the first to raise the torch of liberty and in doing so, free a nation should now seek to fetter its citizens in the bonds of darkness.
 
If their really trying to make the residential area's safer by cutting down on guns then they should put these area's
under total gun bans....
in other words
armed policemen can only work in commercial area's,and ATF and all other federal officers
including different officials bodygaurds.
But then that brings us back to the fact that they have no problem with the guns they have control over like those used by their agents.

Hey werent you all just last month saying
'lets enforce the gunlaws on the books'
Or was that just Lapierre.
www.ccops.org www.gunowners.org

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"those who sacrifice
liberty for security deserve neither"
 
"... Marxist Socialists are a combination of communists, nazis, and fascists. Tyrants, dictators, all..."
Right on, my friend-- one group of totalitarians is not much different from another if you belong to a disfavored group of people.
This example is one reason I'm not too enthused about CCW licensing-- if you need a "permit" to do it, it's not a right, but rather a state-granted privilege that can be revoked at whim.

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"live free or die trying..."
 
I HATE THIS STATE!!!!!

To imagine this was the once proud state where freedom was born. Now, massachusetts is a disgrace to the entire idea of freedom, a disgrace to our heritage of freedom. How long until they revoke licenses to carry? How long until they simply ban all gun dealers and all guns? We are so close, it's almost happened already.

Unfortunately, thanks to the major of liberal boneheads in this state who vote, most of our state reps and senators a democratic anti-gunners, as well as our US reps and senators-- so forget about the political process, or working within the system.

Unfortunately, the only thing a truly honest lawabiding citizen (who wants to remain law abiding) can do is MOVE. I'm going to FL. Sooner than I thought. Unfortunately, that won't change anything, and sooner or later these liberals are going to invade every state in the republic. But I don't believe in fighting battles in a state that has already lost the war of freedom.

Wake up TFLers-- THIS WILL BE YOUR STATE SOON!!!!!
 
Wormtown, I agree and am also moving to FL soon. This state really sucks and I hear it from everyone. I have not known one person that likes it here. The only reason they stay is because they were born here (get a life). It's bad man.

Good luck on the move.....

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"Are You Gonna Bark All Day Little Doggie, Or Are You Gonna Bite?"

"Get rid of that nickel plated sissy pistol and get yourself a Glock" - Tommy Lee Jones
 
Oh, someone mentioned Marxist. So I thought it would be appropriate to show the ten planks of Marxist Communism here.

http://wealth4freedom.com/10Planks.html

1. Abolition of private property and the application of all rent to public purpose.

The 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution (1868), and various zoning, school & property taxes. Also the Bureau of Land Management.


2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.

Misapplication of the 16th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, 1913, The Social Security Act of 1936.; Joint House Resolution 192 of 1933; and various State "income" taxes. We call it "paying your fair share".


3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.

We call it Federal & State estate Tax (1916); or reformed Probate Laws, and limited inheritance via arbitrary inheritance tax statutes.


4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.

We call in government seizures, tax liens, Public "law" 99-570 (1986); Executive order 11490, sections 1205, 2002 which gives private land to the Department of Urban Development; the imprisonment of "terrorists" and those who speak out or write against the "government" (1997 Crime/Terrorist Bill); or the IRS confiscation of property without due process.


5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the State, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly.

We call it the Federal Reserve which is a credit/debt system nationally organized by the Federal Reserve act of 1913. All local banks are members of the Fed system, and are regulated by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC).


6. Centralization of the means of communication and transportation in the hands of the State.

We call it the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) and Department of Transportation (DOT) madated through the ICC act of 1887, the Commissions Act of 1934, The Interstate Commerce Commission established in 1938, The Federal Aviation Administration, Federal Communications Commission, and Executive orders 11490, 10999, as well as State mandated driver's licenses and Department of Transportation regulations.


7. Extention of factories and instruments of production owned by the State, the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.

We call it corporate capacity, The Desert Entry Act and The Department of Agriculture. As well as the Department of Commerce and Labor, Department of Interior, the Evironmental Protection Agency, Bureau of Land Management, Bureau of Reclamation, Bureau of Mines, National Park Service, and the IRS control of business through corporate regulations.


8. Equal liablity of all to labor. Establishment of Industrial armies, especially for agriculture.

We call it the Social Security Administration and The Department of Labor. The National debt and inflation caused by the communal bank has caused the need for a two "income" family. Woman in the workplace since the 1920"s, the 19th amendment of the U.S. Constitution, the Civil Rights Act of 1964, assorted Socialist Unions, affirmative action, the Federal Public Works Program and of course Executive order 11000.


9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the population over the country.

We call it the Planning Reorganization act of 1949 , zoning (Title 17 1910-1990) and Super Corporate Farms, as well as Executive orders 11647, 11731 (ten regions) and Public "law" 89-136.

10. Free education for all children in government schools. Abolition of children's factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, etc. etc.

People are being taxed to support what we call "public" schools, which train the young to work for the communal debt system. We also call it the Department of Education, the NEA and Outcome Based "Education". Click here to learn how it all came about.

Does any of this stuff sound familiar?
It should, we've been living this way for some time.


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Time Heals All Wounds.

Time Wounds All Heels.
 
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