Adding to the Confusion.....

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itgoesboom

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Well, as i mentioned in a post last week, i was considering a Glock 19 or a Walther P99 (i have been changing my mind as to which, every day).
Well, I took my wife to a gun show today, partly to check prices, and partly to find a pistol that would fit her hands.
She liked the Glocks, both the 19 and the 26, but since she has never shot a pistol before, i think the 19 would be a better choice.
While i was looking for a pistol that would be suitable for her, i came across a compact baby eagle. I was very suprised how well it fit my hand, and i really liked the weight to it.
I showed it to her, and thought that it would be a good choice for her, but she felt it was too heavy, after she had held the Glocks, she wasn't intrested in anything else.
Fast forward to tonight, and i am looking at CDNN's catalog, and they have the jericho for $280(identical pistol to the Baby Eagle Compact).

Now i still have 2 months before i can purchase anything (residency requirement), but i still want to make my decision.

So, what does everyone think of the Baby Eagle (Beagle) compared with the Walther and Glock?
As always, the things i am concerned about are reliabilty, and accuracy.

Thanks.

I.G.B.
 
Those baby eagles are great guns!
I think it would be a big mistake to get your wife a Glock as a first handgun.Theres too much room for error on a gun that has a light-short trigger and no manual safety.Have you tried a CZ-100?.If not you should.
 
Given the choices, you can't---repeat CAN'T---beat the Walther P99. Glocks are good, but if they continue to evolve they'll eventually become Walthers a few million years from now. So you might as well get that P99.

Baby Eagles? Never held one in my life; but if they handle the same way the Desert Eagle does... heck!... I can hold a brick a lot easier, and probably hurl it with far greater lethality than shooting that lump of steel.

Your pick.
 
The Jericho/Baby has nothing to do with the Desert Eagle. The Baby is an improvement on the CZ-75 and has polygonal rifling. They are all steel and should last forever. Good range and holster gun, a bit heavy for CCW. Good price!
 
I'd go with the Glock 19, then a Baby Eagle in 9x19 or .40, and not with the Walther, i just have never been impressed with walthers...

safety = your finger....nonsense about women and glocks, my wife shoots my glock like a pro, and knows that you don't put your finger in the trigger gaurd unless you intend to destroy anything the gun is pointing at...

The baby eagle are fantastic, i have a polymer baby eagle in .40 with night sites, fantastic...very accurate and powerful...
 
So, well, there is one positive vote for each gun (as well as one neutral on the Baby Eagle).

I may not have been too clear when i was explaining who this pistol is for.....its for ME!! I originally thought that it would be a good piece for my wife, since its grips would fit her hands well, but she felt it was too heavy (which, i feel would make it easier for her to shoot).

I like the feel of the Baby Eagle Compact, and i like the weight. It might be a good pistol to buy and teach my wife with before she gets her Glock. That way i can instill good technique, and she can use a pistol thats a little heavier to get used to shooting.

Ofcourse, in my tradition of adding more and more confusion, i have decided that i will probably get my CCW after i purchase this next pistol (reversal of my previous decision). So now i need to factor this into the decision.

I already know there are many holsters for the Glocks and Walthers, but i havent found many for the Baby Eagle Compact.

Once again, all help is appreciated.

I.G.B.
 
The BE is a nice pistol. I think that if they had better marketing they would be a very popular pistol.

The Glock and the Walther are both very nice pistols.

You will find tons of extra stuff/mags/holsters for the Glock. Some for the Walther, and almost none for the BE.

Take a look at what features you are interested in. The Glock is striker fired with no safety. The Walther is a DA/SA with decocker. The BE is DA/SA with a manual safety. Which type of action do you prefer? Which feels better in your hands? Which one points naturally for you?

I guess it all kind of depends. All there are worthy guns. And I would feel well armed with any of them.
 
The Glock is striker fired with no safety. The Walther is a DA/SA with decocker. The BE is DA/SA with a manual safety. Which type of action do you prefer?
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Honestly, i would prefer a S/A with a manual safety (no decocker). However, i know that the current baby eagles have a decocker, the walther is a S/A-D/A with three diffferent trigger types, and the Glock is the Safe-Action. So the closest thing to what i would like would be the Walther (using the long S/A pull).

And since i know people are going to mention them because i like the single action design, yes i have looked at a 1911 (i love the springfield), but i want my wife to be able to handle it as well, and the cost of .45 acp is too much for us to be able to really practice.
I also have looked at the Cz's (almost bought one a couple years ago), but they just dont fit right in my hands.

Which feels better in your hands? Which one points naturally for you?
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Thats the major problem-- I like the feeling of all of them. All three seem to melt into my hand, and become an extension of it.
I was seriously making my wife dizzy going back and forth between all of them while at the gun show. I see positives and negatives for each one.

If you think that i am bad when i am choosing a pistol, you should see me pick out my cameras (the real reason i am poor).

I.G.B.
 
QUICK GLOCK STORY

Ok first I just want to say Im not glock bashing.

BUT,

I used to work with a woman who became a deputy sheriff. She was a former US Marine (I.E. been around firerms) She was at the range one day and went to holster her Glock 23, the thumb brake for the holster ended up in the trigger guard and the motion of holstering the weapon caused the trigger to get pulled and she shot her self in the thiegh./ Sure this was operator error. but is the weapon had an external safety and she was actually using it this would not have happened. Ive been in the woods and found sticks and braches in my trigger guard before, but was saved by the safety (again operator error). For a first timer a glock might not be the best. If your heads up and your **** is wired tight a Glock is a wonderful firearm.
I sold my glock after she shot herself. Im usually very conscious, but why take the chance?

~BBall~
 
Go with the Glock 19 first. Once your wife has adopted it you can go get a Jerico, or a Baby Eagle (or both;)) for yourself.:D
 
I've tried to get my wife used to "safer" guns like DA/SA autos and the P7, but she doesn't like having to struggle against heavy triggers.

She does like the Glock trigger. For added safety I installed a New York trigger. This makes the trigger more resistant to accidents but changes the perceived trigger pull minimally.
 
The BE is a great gun. Those who think they are a brick are pretty much correct but they are damn fine guns....Home defense/target guns to be sure. If you carry one...you can kill me with your bare hands probably anyway :D
They arent an improvement over CZ's though....IMO. Because they are heavier and have the DE shape? Poly barrels are a great thing but the slide mounted safety/decocker isnt ....they made them both ways.
The Walther and Glock are both fine guns. Id probably go for the P99...just because its a great gun and there arent a gazillion of them.
Shoot well
 
The Baby is available with the CZ style safety. It has full length slide rails, contoured shape, extended slide release, Polygonal barrel and slimmer, more ergonomic grip. And it looks better. All improvements over the CZ. Plus, it isn't painted.
 
I have a Glock 22 and a Walther P99 (.40cal) and I would recommend either of them.

I did check out a Baby Eagle (Eaglet?) at the local gun shop. It seemed well built, but I didn't care for how low the slide is compared to the frame. It seems like it would be hard to get a good grip on if you were in a hurry.
 
I want to second what Glockpower said. Glocks are completely safe if you follow good safety procedures and have a little common sense. The simplicity they offer also makes them a great gun for beginners.
 
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