Academia: Cesspool of Demosocialist political indoctrination

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The Demosocialists are a putrid cancer feeding on the world of academia - we all know this, but at last, here is empirical proof. ("Vast right-wing conspiracy," my a**).



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The Washington Times
www.washingtontimes.com



CLOSING OF THE UNIVERSITY MIND
By Suzanne Fields
Published April 4, 2005




Hillary Clinton's right-wing conspiracy, even if as vast as she said it was, has yet to be discovered. But a left-wing conspiracy -- or something close to it -- flourishes on the campus. We have a vast new study, conducted by university professors, proving it.

The professors won't exactly call it that, but how else can we account for the latest survey that finds that 72 percent of faculty members at American universities describe themselves as liberal? The proportion goes up to 87 percent on elite campuses, so called, where only 13 percent of the profs are conservative.

"This is the richest lore of information on faculty ideology in 20 years," says Robert Lichter, a professor of communications (once called journalism) at George Mason University who is one of the authors of the study. "And this is the first study that statistically proves bias against conservatives in the hiring and promotion of faculty members." A fly on the wall at faculty discussions over who gets hired and who gets tenure would probably hear all kinds of reasons why conservatives need not apply, but the sweep of the survey makes a mockery of the liberal demand for "diversity" on campus. The greatest shortage, of course, is the diversity of ideas.

The study, published in the March issue of Forum, an on-line political "magazine," doesn't say how the political breakdown affects style and substance, interpretations and content, but it's not hard to guess at the damage it does across a variety of courses. In English literature, for example, 88 percent of the professors are liberals; only 3 percent are conservative.

You may wonder what's "conservative" or "liberal" about Shakespeare, Milton or Wordsworth. They're dead white men who have to compete with newly minted women, blacks, Hispanics and the occasional "others" who have made it into the canon on the basis of sex or race. How poetry is taught today is deeply affected by ideology and "identity" politics.

Before the 1970s, literature was taught in the context of its time, a chronology looking at uniqueness and universality with appeals to a human connectedness, a spiritual renewal and transcendence that emerge from language. Each poem required a close reading for line, sound and substance as well as recognition of the artist himself. But that requires that the professor know how to read.

"One result of this triumph of ideology over art is that, on the basis of their publications, few literature professors know how to 'read' anymore -- and thus can scarcely be trusted to teach that skill to the students," writes Camille Paglia in "Break, Blow, Burn," her new book on poetry. Cultural studies only made matters worse, "undone by programmatic Marxism." John Paul Sartre became a hero in literature, philosophy, sociology and political science even though his popularity largely depended on his politics, and he was dead wrong on the most important issues of his time, championing Marxism in spite of the tyranny it spawned. His reputation in academe was burnished by his hatred of America, which he described as "the cradle of the new Fascism." The students of the '60s inevitably became the tenured professors that are so heavily with us today, trying to spawn a succession of look-alikes and feel-alikes. Henry Louis Gates, Jr., an influential professor of African American studies, was right on when he observed that his generation progressed from taking over buildings to taking over the curricula.

Sadly, Raymond Aron, a French intellectual who died in 1983 and who was a contemporary of Sartre's, never received the celebrity or attention he deserved for inspiring a counter-argument to the corrupt liberal ideology that dominates the campus today. In his book, "The Opium of the Intellectuals," he trained a powerful lens on what was happening at the university, the savaging of ideals in the name of a false liberalism, tolerating only ideas that fit into "the proper doctrines." He wrote before "political correctness" became a campus cliché.

The lopsided attitudes of college professors pose a serious challenge to learning because students are so susceptible to becoming intellectual sheep. Occasionally there's a corrective conservative student movement, expressed in alternative campus newspapers, but this contributes more to polarization than to a resurgence of deep thinking.

Ultimately we have to answer the question posed by the late Allan Bloom in his critique of the university: "Given the increasing and menacing pressures for conformity growing up within the university, it seems reasonable to ask whether it will not be necessary for thinking men and women to return to the isolation of private life in order to be able to think freely."




Copyright © 2005 News World Communications, Inc. All rights reserved.
 
Eh, I am not particularly sympathetic to the idea that an 20 something adult is an impressionable young child. Those that tend towards liberalism in colleges do so because that's what excites them, in my opinion. It's not like college campuses in the 1960's were known for being fair and balanced, yet here we are in the 21st century with Republicans controlling the Office of the President and both houses of Congress.

I'm not sure what people want done here...affirmative action for conservatives?
 
I know that Was Times is (IMO) a neo conservative rag but I seriously don't think that this was a news article and it was printed as an editorial. Was it?

Of course colleges hire mostly liberals. All of the conservatives got real jobs with their degrees. :D (I can make fun of my fellow liberals too)
 
Oh no victimized conservatives! Actually what's going on here, is those with a conservative political agenda have enrolled in the oppressed classes. That alas, is almost a conceptual job requirement in academic jobs. Ironic really, for all involved.
Concerning the apparent imbalance between 'conservative' and 'liberal' that depends a great deal on the school and location. Additionally, some may respond to the question 'liberal?' in a reference closer to the original meaning of the word. And for an academic, the presumed willingness to examine new ideas, would be a valued attitude and asset.
Camille Paglia...are you quite sure you wish to use her to support a presumed conservative opinion? She's not one who is easily defined...a lesbian, Maeniad, pornography supporter, one hell of an essayist, and a sometimes reinterpreter of Neitzche. She's quite happily skewered hypocrisy on both the right and the left. Damn near an libertarian, or a academic vagente (of sorts, she has a tenured job, or used to...)
Concerning allegedly brainwashed students...I doubt they're that easily manipulated. As they gain a little knowledge the questioning will begin...even if they do it at the local cantina, and not in the class.
Actually the biggest problem in regards to 'brainwashing' has been an overemphasize on 'self esteem' in the secondary and primary schools. The realization that they might not be all that, is what makes many students reluctant to question the ideas sent to them. After all, to paraphrase Ari, the unexamined life is not worth living...but so is the life which has never been questioned, because you just might find there's more than little you. (Incidentally, the overemphasis on self esteem had been one of the indirect and unintended aspects of Satre's influenced on US education).
And finally, in my experience, one of the reasons students don't openly question (at least as much as they should) the rot...is because of the costs of school, and the pressure they are under to enter into in a job market which is unfavorable to their status.
Many know academia is a game, but they also know they cannot opt out. And even if they don't, they 'do you want fries with that' and the student loan company calling them more than their mother...still looms as a justified fear.
So quite literally, their concerns aren't that premised on whether the prof is liberal or conservative. That's a luxury for the already established.
 
It almost makes you wonder why it is the most educated and literate people in the US are liberal minded...


... no, no it can't be. :D
 
Camille Paglia...are you quite sure you wish to use her to support a presumed conservative opinion?
Frankly I can't find any good use for Camille Paglia, but I will take the word of Dinesh D'Souza any day of the week. His book "Illiberal Education: The Politics of Race and Sex On Campus 1991" was way ahead of the curve on this subject.
 
Interesting, Suzanne Field' "Closing of the University Mind seems to parallo Allan Bloom's "Closing of the American Mind. They both discuss the notion of universities being liberal. Suzanne Fields is an opinion writer for the "Washington Times." She is a conservative and as such will undoubtedly have a bias in her work in regard to left v. right political views. This is the same for Allan Bloom.

Allan Bloom is the author of the book called, "The Closing of the American Mind" back in 1987. He died October 7, 1992.

The Demosocialists are a putrid cancer feeding on the world of academia - we all know this, but at last, here is empirical proof. ("Vast right-wing conspiracy," my a**).

Your notion that this article is proof is unjustified. Basically, you are just wholesale believing that Suzanne Field's synopsis of the original study is both accurate and interpretted correctly. Given the vast amount of trust we put into news services for getting everything right (and here on TFL, we often note just how incorrect many published articles and opinions are when it comes to facts). Why should be put full faith in Fields when we won't do it with other writers? Is it because she is promoting a perspective we like? It must be, or why else would we accept it as truth without verification? No doubt that had she written a scathing opinion on conservative views, we would have thought her a liar.

Fields notes that the statistis prove the closing of the university mind. This statement shows her ignorance in regard to what is proof and what statistics are.

So, did you actually read Lichter's study and actually understand the issues discussed therein? Are you aware of the research parameters used? So far, I haven't been able to find and actual copy of the article, but would like to see it.

Supposedly, it came out in an online magazine called FORUM. The only one by that name that I have found is www.forum.com and it is an online business magazine.

What do we know about the online political magazine called FORUM? Not much, or at least not me. Do we know if it is a peer-reviewed magazine, a right wing propoganda magazine, or something completely unbiased and with high standards?

As near as I can tell from reviews other than Fields, Lichter is not suggesting a left-wing conspiracy as she did. He is simply pointing out a trend without justification of cause and effect. Fields would have you believe it is a conspiracy. However, there is a funny thing she neglected to mention in her interpretation. There are other reasons for liberal-based colleges other than conspiracy. Colleges and universities are often liberal as much of the faculty are democrats. Traditionally, the democrats have been more supported of the university and and education systems than republicans. Given that the faculty depend on their positions for a living, do you think you would find a lot that support the republican party that has a reputation for cutting funding? Also, there is an attraction for jobs outside of the university where there is greater potential to earn more money. College professors generally are not top end earners in the population, but usually have a solid position with excellent benefits. A democratic liberal perspective is what they support to maintain a status quo.

I would be willing to wager that the limited number of republicans in university teaching positions are those in positions that have appeal outside of the teaching industry, such as business and computer science.

In looking back over Fields' interpretation, what I see is a bunch or unsupported jibberish. For example,
The study, published in the March issue of Forum, an on-line political "magazine," doesn't say how the political breakdown affects style and substance, interpretations and content, but it's not hard to guess at the damage it does across a variety of courses. In English literature, for example, 88 percent of the professors are liberals; only 3 percent are conservative.

So, the original study didn't comment on the breakdown of effects, but she apparently knows what is being done and hints at much of it without proof.

To suggest there is a liberal conspiracy producing a disproportionate number of liberals in colleges is just plain naive and ignorant.

If you want to see more republicans and conservatives in universities, then you need to start convincing republicans to start getting Ph.D.s in all the traditionally democratic fields so that the balance can be effected. Sadly, most don't have a lot of interest enough in those other fields to commit to the years of graduate school and highly compettive faculty market to work for medium wages.
 
Concerning the apparent imbalance between 'conservative' and 'liberal' that depends a great deal on the school and location. Additionally, some may respond to the question 'liberal?' in a reference closer to the original meaning of the word. And for an academic, the presumed willingness to examine new ideas, would be a valued attitude and asset.
I started college late and I am currently there now (leaving for classes in a few minutes actually) and I have found this to be true. Liberal sometimes means "for change" in the classic sense. The liberal professors I have experience with so far (sophmore) have been open to students' ideas (at least mine because I have more life expereince maybe). I bring up guns and gun rights in classes all the time (kinda like I bring up that I'm a liberal on TFL all the time) and even my essays often have guns and gun rights as a topic. I have received a good (but sometimes shocked from other, younger, students) reactions from professors (and no I don't abuse the parenthesis's in my papers). I have even had a marxist/communist professor substitute for my proffessor in political science class and disagreed with him. As long as the debate is thoughtful (be it cons or libs) they are "open" to discussion and this is in my opinion because of the liberal open mindedness.

Reading Handy's, Xavier Breath's, Fred Hansen's (yes conservatives too), Double Naught Spy's, and now Faraway's and many others on TFL I now have a new theory that lead doesn't hurt the brain. It does the opposite. (man! I love TFL). I hope to be well read as you guys and learn a critical thinking discipline from college that is half as good as you guys and gals.
 
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How about the curriculums? Library inventories? Any one done research on that?

But this "left vs. right" is a staged conflict anyway. What is being pushed in many of the public schools is well known; yet we have a "conservative" WH and Congress who have not done a thing to curb it - let alone turn it around. For that matter though, why do we still have a "Department of Education"?

With some noteworthy exceptions, the "conservatives" in the U.S. Congress and controlling the WH are ideologically indistinguishable from their "opponents". So what is to distinguish them from the "liberals" in educational institutions? They might as well be considered of the same stock.
 
A top man in the french communist party was asked about the future of communism considering the fall of the Soviet Union etc. He responded -don't worry , communism is alive and well in the colleges of America.....Thomas Sowell searched many college libraries for books about economic systems.He said that he could find many books about all the failed systems , communism, fascism, socialism etc, but he was unable to find even one book about the only successful system ,captalism ! :(
 
"Eh, I am not particularly sympathetic to the idea that an 20 something adult is an impressionable young child."

You'll understand when you're 50 something.

Tim
 
So, the better the school, the more liberal professors there are? Wouldn't the point here be that liberal professors are better professors?
 
"why it is the most educated and literate people in the US are liberal minded..."

Maybe they're educated and literate, but they might not be the smartest when it comes to the real world outside the orbit of the universities.

I think the problem is that too many of them(the ones with way too many degrees and credentials) spent too many years attending college and not enough out in the real world. IOW, they've spent too much time hanging with idealistic students, idealistic professors and each other.

But what do I know. I quit school after getting an M.S. at age 23.

John
 
The "soft sciences" (you know, theoretical models of how someone thinks something should work, but dignified with an "-ology" to make it sound sophisticated: Psychology, Sociology, Phrenology, Astrology...) are a natural playground for this personality type and worldview. The faculty at engineering schools tends to be of a somewhat different slant.

Plus, it takes a special kind of personality to make a career out of being locked in a room with a bunch of 19 to 24 year old children for hours at a time. :o
 
Tamara,
I am enrolled in a sociology course right now and it is hillarius. I believe the text explained it as the study of human group behavior using the scientific method or some such jibberish, but here is the real method:

1. Form a hypothesis that you intend to prove correct.
2. Conduct a study using surveys distributed where you will get a high probability of the result you want.
3. Tabulate the surveys using any computer program like SPSS, throwing out the "outliers" (any survey that doesn't prove your point).
4. Write your research and publish it in a journal that will recieve the least criticism.
5. Write a text and go on the lecture circuit.

Kinda like those that said the SAT's discriminate against women and minorities. They proved it by showing test scores. It isn't that perhaps the education of women and minorities might not prepare them as well for the SAT, it is that the SAT is biased against them- hence we now have an SAT that will give the Colleges the results they wanted anyway.

Colleges are fun, but don't think the students buy off on all that crap. There are some to be sure, but if you read some of the silly essays I write just to get a passing grade and graduate, you would think I was liberal too (read any of my posts going back to 1999 if you have doubts of my beliefs). I don't write to make a point. I write to graduate.

Isn't that what college is all about? Figuring out where your paycheck (or grade) is coming from and doing what you have to do to keep the customer happy? I applaud the students at the University for so duping the Profs!

Just my thoughts.
 
I think the problem is that too many of them(the ones with way too many degrees and credentials) spent too many years attending college and not enough out in the real world.
John, I'm honestly curious where this "real world" exists. I haven't experienced it in the Navy. Maybe Tamara has it going on in her gun shop?


We all live in a rarified microcosm of a world. We take in what we understand and has been made available to us, and form incomplete models that fit with our prejudices - but no one has the whole picture. Not even Fred Hansen.


I don't really know who's "right" about alot of issues, but it is disturbing that the people who study history have a different view then those currently engaged in making it. And why is it that those who reject the social sciences presume to know more about human nature then those who make it their lifes work? The people with the strongest opinions about what is wrong with universities are the last people to set foot in one.

It used to be that universities were for people who wanted to ask questions the rest of us didn't find interesting. Now days everyone has an opinion, but the academian's opinions are the least valuable. :rolleyes:
 
We had the same thing at my university, and everyone was like, "WE NEVER NEW THIS" . I thought to myself, yeah, right.

A couple of random rants about this. FIrst, i found it interesting that (at least at my liberal school), the highest proportion of conservatives to liberals was in the economics department. As someone who trends toward economically moderate, i find that food for thought. Handy, there is the "white tower" syndrome. THat is, that sometimes some college professors get caught up in theories and forget about what works in the world. Not always true, but it seems like that does happen at colleges.


Finally ,i would like to point out that there is probably some self-selection going on here, too. I think liberals are just more likely to become teachers than conservatives. Admittedly, there may be some bias in the selection process. But i suspect that self-selection is also at play, here.

(Same thing that means that there are maybe 10 "out" conservatives out of 300 in my residential college. . . what my residential college is automatically selects against *many* republicans.)
 
Hey dude, I've been in both private sector jobs and academia.
Not much rational reality in either.
LAK, concerning skewed curriculum. That depends on the discipline, and the texts used. Education for example, more often tends to a leftist bias. In part this is political in origin the old lefties from the 60's are now in guv'ment. And since education degrees are closely formatted to state cert. standards its an easy arena to sneak in an agenda. Much harder than say, computer science or liberal arts.
In the lower division courses, any given bias tends to be included in the text. Whether or not a prof revises it to suit his or her personal opinions is an ethical and time issue. In general the really competant profs will tend to research/write their own course content-so to a degree personal agendas will tend to be involved.
Another factor is politics, the one arena were academia is very, very cutthroat is in the political machinations for position and power. And in that area, if the dominant philosophy differs from your own...it's not a wise choice to rattle the rhetorical sabers until your in the position to take the blows.In regards to the politics, academia is as serious, or more so than the mainstream. It's very difficult to survive professionally in that environment; probably in their own way, academics are worse than lawyers in the plotting and scheming section.
 
I wasn't knocking social sciences. I was knocking Sociology specifically for what appears to me to be a bunch of people who have serious agendas. The psychology departments tend to have a better grasp on the true scientific method and hence tend to be more effective. They're full of liberals too, but at least they do limited damage.

Remember, Economics is also a social science. It is not mathmatics. It studies the "rational" behavior of human beings and makes assumptions that people will act in their best interests in a rational way.

Don't find just a whole pile of liberals in econ departments.
 
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