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I've posted a couple of threads about comparing ruger p95 and the cz 75b, and the insights have been great, and i've read other threads about the guns and it seems like you can't really go wrong with either. i appreciate the responses, thanks!

the cz seems to be more for the money, the one downside is that i want a manual saftey and a decocker- i'm new to guns and safe is really important to me

the other thing is absolute reliablity, everything i've read says for the most part rugers will not fail, you can shoot crap and they fire, even dirty (which my renting of a p95 at the range showed)

here is the question, is the cz just as reliable, it needs to be

it is going to come down to reliability, durability, saftey, since i'm new to shooting my accuracy is worse than the guns, i can always get better and make the gun perform better, then get another if i decide to get into competiton
 
If you're looking for reliability, accuracy, safety, etc, why not look at double action revolvers instead? Get what suits you, of course, but don't overlook the wheelgun.

Regards and good luck,
Callahan
 
Ruger's and CZ's are O.K.-

But for maximum reliability in an auto pistol, take a quick
look at the Sig-Sauer "Classic" P-series line. Stone cold
reliable, in any weather conditions.:) :D :cool:

Best Wishes,
Ala Dan, Life Member N.R.A.
 
Owned autoloaders from over a dozen companies. Carried one for years.

Inspector Callahan makes valid suggestion.

Sam
 
I hope I can be of assistance....
The reliability of a CZ pistol? hmmmmmm
Uterly and completely reliable. As consistant as any other handgun in the world. The funny thing is, if they were priced like a SIG or Beretta ...no one would question it and they would sell the same...I think. I speculate prices are going up soon anyway.
The 75/85 series will eat anything you want to feed them for as long as you can afford to feed them...

Shoot well
 
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Don't kid yourself by applying that concept to shooting machines! Have you got ANY idea of the instantaneous forces they encounter? It's not a matter of if they fail, it's a matter of when. Machines and electronic/electrical devices are rated according to MTBF (mean time before failure). A typical lightbulb has an MTBF of 750 hours. Abuse it with higher than rated line voltage or frequent cycling, and it will fail sooner than later.

A compact polymer pistol has a shorter MTBF than a steel one, but they both will fail. If you want "absolute reliability" in something, limit your field to gravity. Hasn't failed yet, and it works well with rocks dropped from high places....
 
I have fired several CZ75Bs. All of the ones I have fired have been 100% reliable. I have never seen a CZ pistol fail to date.

Shake
 
No firearm is absolutely reliable. 10,000 round tests of several modern pistols have had as many as a dozen malfunctions. The most common problem is failure to feed because the magazine isn't locked in. Dirty chambers and feed ramps count for other problems. Even a few rounds have failed to fire on the first primer strike.

Put another way, operator error is a much bigger contributor to malfunctions than the mechanical reliability of these weapons. That's one reason why military training focuses so much on misfire procedures - so that it is rote.

You are focusing on the wrong attributes. It is MUCH more important to buy the gun that fits your hand and makes you happy. That has sights you like, that you can afford and that will get you out on the range, shooting and learning.

Whichever pistol you buy, there are going to be things you find out you like, and things you don't, and they won't be the same as when you bought it.
 
In my experience there is more variance within good brands than between them. CZ does make a decocker model, BTW.

So far my CZ has been invincible. 100% perfect so far, even when filthy (think lots of cast lead handloads), over about 1,000 rounds. Not an Endurance Test of Doom, but definitely comforting.
 
P95DAO

How about the Ruger P95DAO? Double-Action trigger like a revolver and no safety to have to remember to manipulate when under extreme pressure.... just aim and shoot with a long, safe trigger pull.
Good luck.
 
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