A word on Taurus Security

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Kalgalath

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Taurus has implemented a transfer bar system on their revolvers.
The transfer bar mechanism prevents the hammer from striking the firing pin unless the trigger is pulled fully to the rear.

The last automatic I bought was a Smith and Wesson .40 cal, and overall It's a pretty decent hand gun. However there are two things I really despise about the weapon.
First and foremost, the only safety is on the trigger (I really hate that). Secondly, before you fire a second round the trigger has to be fully released to the starting point before beginning the next firing cycle.

It's just personal preference, I know, but these things really irk me.

What I want to know is, are there any of you who have the same issues as I do. And do you own a Taurus revolver with the transfer bar system?

Is there anyone who owns a Taurus with the transfer bar system who can't stand this feature?

Hate it?
Love it?
Don't notice?
 
Transfer bars have been around for a long time.

I've owned 2 Taurus 85's and a 94, no problems with either.

What Smith are you talking about?

They do sell models with a manual safety if you prefer.

Trigger reset is another personal preference. No problems with Smith's here.
 
Are you sure it's the transfer bar travel that requires full trigger travel?
I just checked a couple of revolvers with transfer bars, and the transfer bar is well up in position, about half distance of the trigger pull.
But the hammer does not fall until the trigger is at full travel, just like every revolver I've ever owned, with or without a transfer bar.
What auto are you referring to?
One of the hammer fired ones, maybe.
They use a different type trigger design than striker fired guns, and can have a short take up that requires a nearly full release of the trigger.
Was your previous experience with a striker type?
 
Sounds like a comparison of revolvers and auto pistols, not really a good comparison.

As to triggers, I know of no handguns (except full auto) that don't require that the trigger be released before pulling it to fire the next round.

I think Kalgalath had an S&W Sigma, a Glock type. When he talks about not having the trigger return all the way, he seems to be referring to a DA/SA auto pistol where the first shot is DA, but the next shots are SA so the trigger has a short return stroke. That is a function of the trigger mechanism of the pistol and has nothing to do with a transfer bar, which is used only on revolvers.

Jim
 
There's no forgetting the only dependable safety is the one between our ears.
Maybe the complaint about the trigger on the auto is that it's not like a Glock, with a short reset.
If his is a Sigma, and it's the copy of a Glock that got S&W in such a hassle, it's surprising that it doesn't have a similar trigger.
The Glock short reset is one of its best features.
 
Taurus has implemented a transfer bar system on their revolvers.
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No real news. They've had it for ages.

Ruger uses transfer bars, as well as Charter Arms. (I think Charter invented it, way back when.)

Is there anyone who owns a Taurus with the transfer bar system who can't stand this feature?

Hate it?
Love it?
Don't notice?
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I appreciate it. It's safe. I truly don't see why anyone would have an issue with the transfer bar system.

What alternative would you rather see used?
 
Nope it was Charter that invented it...
Taken from their website "Charter invented the hammer block transfer bar safety system used by almost every revolver manufacturer."
 
Nope. It wasColt...or Iver Johnson.....it was one of the two.....I forget which.

Python had it in 59'? I will have to go look.
 
it's a simple question series people


Does trigger safety options like what is used on the Glock and full trigger range release not sit well you?

If the answer is Yes please see question number two.

Question number two ... Do you own a Taurus revolver that has implemented the transfer bar system?

If the answer to this question is also yes, then what are your thoughts on the transfer bar system? Does it bother you in any way?

If you can't answer yes to the first two questions then please stop hijacking my thread.
 
it's a simple question series people


Does trigger safety options like what is used on the Glock and full trigger range release not sit well you?

If the answer is Yes please see question number two.

Question number two ... Do you own a Taurus revolver that has implemented the transfer bar system?

If the answer to this question is also yes, then what are your thoughts on the transfer bar system? Does it bother you in any way?

If you can't answer yes to the first two questions then please stop hijacking my thread.
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Two different systems, on two completely different types of handgun. Maybe if you could clarify what you're looking for.
 
Nope. It wasColt...or Iver Johnson.....it was one of the two.....I forget which.

Python had it in 59'? I will have to go look.
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I'm curious as to what you find out. Transfer bars and "hammer blocks" are two different concepts and I don't think Colt (or Iver Johnson) invented or first used (or maybe even ever used) the transfer bar safety system.

Is there anyone who owns a Taurus with the transfer bar system who can't stand this feature?

Hate it?
Love it?
Don't notice?
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As others have asked, what about the transfer bar system concerns you in any way? It has little or nothing to do with how quickly (or slowly) the trigger is re-set and the design has been used by many revolver makers over the past several decades without any problem that I'm aware of.
 
If you can't answer yes to the first two questions then please stop hijacking my thread.
I think you should chill a little on that comment. You seem to be getting answers you don’t like. For one thing I’m not too sure when Taurus added the transfer bar under their hammer. I have a 445 that was built 20+ years ago that has it.
You say it irks you, why does it?
Why do you have a problem with the system since gun manufactures have been using it for decades? The way it functions is very simple, the transfer bar is in the up position with the hammer back and does nothing but remain up when the trigger is pulled, there is no feel or any indication its being used.
As far as the second why would you buy a gun that you “really despise”? And if it’s a double action there is nothing that the manufacture can do to shorten the reset point since you need the entire length to cock the hammer.
The Glock has a very good trigger as it’s designed to work. Yes I would love to have it work like a 1911 but then it would be unsafe to carry. Since as you put it the trigger is its only safety Glock did everything it could do to make it safe. Even though I do wish Glock offered a gun with a manual safety I still carry my 26 as is.
You’re asking several questions, one concerning revolvers and then changing to an auto then changing to a Glock.
 
I own 3 Taurus revolvers, all with the transfer bar system. I've also shot a number of revolvers without it, and cannot feel a difference that I'd attribute to the transfer bar. Pretty much all DA revolvers I've fired do require the trigger to go most of the way forward before taking another shot; it's not because of the transfer bar. It doesn't bother me because I started on revolvers. Cocking the hammer and shooting single action will give you a better trigger pull than most any automatic though, and that's how I shoot 90% of the time.
 
I had a Taurus 605 and it was junk. The cylinder catch stuck on me several times and after some research I discovered this was a common issue as well as the company having a reputation for having a higher than normal failure rate and poor customer service. I sold it and bought a ruger SP101, the quality of the ruger is much higher.
 
If you can't answer yes to the first two questions then please stop hijacking my thread.
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Welcome to the internet. You own NO THREADS on this forum.
You will NEVER own any thread on this forum. Start your own forum if you'd like such power.

I own a Taurus with a transfer bar system and it works perfectly well. I own a S&W revolver that has a firing pin attached to the hammer and it works well also. I have a Ruger single action that uses a transfer bar system and it works 100% properly all of the time.
What I want to know is, are there any of you who have the same issues as I do.
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Boy, I certainly hope not.
 
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