JoeSixpack
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Went to my dealer to pick up some goodies.
A pair of 809's, a 738 "TCP", and a Mod. 85 revolver.
John Woo special, The 809's
I picked up a pair of these after hearing they was discontinued and seeing the prices hover just above 200.
These are polymer framed, hammer fired full size guns.
Seems like a oddity these days so I had to nab a pair.
Sadly the shop I bought from was not able to send me sequential serials
I did not compare it to my current carry gun the Taurus 99 (Same size as a Beretta 92) But I'd say it's at least as big and heavy.
Gun comes in a hard case, It's actually pretty decent quality, molded foam.
A cheap useless mag loader, 2 mags, 2 extra changeable back straps, and a cleaning brush.. or at least it was suppose to both of them was missing the brush.
The sticker on the case has a late April date, but these was suppose to have been discontinued the end of 2016, I tried to do a serial search but both guns show "not found".. Have to ask Taurus about it.
When I first picked the gun up my first thoughts was DAMN this grip is big.
I think the problem isn't that it's big but that it's long.. that and the fact that it's hard and rough, Im use to rubber grips on most guns I think it would feel a lot better with rubber.
After about 15mins of handling it started to feel better to me, Im also gonna try to swap the back straps.
Field strip is a snap, take down is like a glock but without the trigger pull.
The entire gun is fully Ambi, But I think it comes at a price, The mag release while being small is also harder then I like.
The mag itself seems high quality, holds 17, has individual witness holes.
The base plate has a sort of swoop for your pinky but honestly it's completely unnecessary the gun is full size my hand comes no where near the mag base plate so that's probably gonna get trimmed flat.
Speaking of mags I did not break out a 92 mag to compare but they look fairly similar to a 92 mag, Im betting I can modify mags to fit this thing.
Besides the mag release the controls are easy to manipulate, smooth, and positive.
Im not a fan of their choice of triggers, it's polymer, it's not uncomfortable but I think it has some flex to it.. If anyone made a aftermarket metal trigger at reasonable price I'd be interested.
The DA trigger is very heavy on this beast, worse yet it's kinda gritty, I think I already identified the source of that grit.. a good cleaning might fix it but if not a quick fluff and buff would probably do wonders for smoothing the trigger.
I imagine I'll be looking at a hammer spring swap to lower the pull weight.. No way you're gonna pull the trigger by accident on this.
SA trigger was quite decent, very crisp, don't have a trigger gauge but probably around 4-4.5lb If I had to guess.
Overall I like the gun but I gotta do something about that trigger.. the DA is just outta control on it.
*Due to image in post limitations I've only included a few the rest are links
http://i65.tinypic.com/vy1gs1.jpg
http://i63.tinypic.com/158bgiv.jpg
http://i64.tinypic.com/dxn0ih.jpg
http://i67.tinypic.com/24ezxoj.jpg
http://i64.tinypic.com/xblk3k.jpg
The PT738 A.K.A "TCP"
I bought the 738 solely cause of price, It's a .380acp
Honestly I did not want to add 380 to my list of calibers to stock.
But when I came across this thing for $137 new.. How could I resist that?
So there's not much to say about this gun, The first thing you notice is wow it's lite, I think Taurus clocks it some where around 10 or 11oz.
The 2nd thing you notice is wow this thing feels like a toy, heck it looks like a toy even.
I mean everything about it screams delicate, the frame feels kinda cheap and the plastic is very thin, the slide is very thin, the barrel is paper thin.. seriously I would just assume the barrel would blow up if you shot this thing.
But I know they don't so they must have put the right stuff at the right spots.
I mean the barrel and slide you can tell they're metal but they almost feel like aluminum they're so light and thin, It's absolutely nuts.
Im kinda curious how it does at the range I imagine that .380 is gonna show me how it's full grown shooting out of this thing.
The mag is quality, infact it says mfg by mec-gar so at least we know that's good to go
The gun has a concealed hammer so not striker fired but is this weird setup where it's SA but has a long trigger pull anyway, reminds me of DA given the length and weight of the pull.
I think given size constraint the hammer must do a really wild 270degree rotation or something to get the momentum to fire.
Anyway no manual safety, does have slide release and last round hold open.
Trigger is long, and feels like a DA trigger but is smooth and manageable.
Have to wait and see what it does at the range it definitely has me interested.. I keep having to tell my self this isn't a toy but it sure feels like one, Guess that's the sacrifice for going this far down the rabbit hole.
Model 85.
Model 85 was another "value" buy.
I didn't own any snubbies and I kinda wanted one but it was so far down my list.
I would have rather had a 357 but I honestly can't remember the last time I shot 357's out of my 357's.. Given these have 40 dollar rebates right now I got this one at a steal.. 194 - 40 = 154.. couldn't pass it up.
Out of the 4 I got today I was most excited before hand for the 809's
But I gotta tell ya, Im tickled pink with this thing.. Obviously I've not had it to the range yet but everything checks out on it.
-Finish was fine
-Gap is pretty good
-Lock up is good but not vice tight :/ well within acceptable though.
-No end play or anything, Timing is perfect.
-Ejection is good
-Cylnder spin is smooth, Ejector rod is straight.
DA trigger is heavy which is to be expected but silky smooth & SA is really nice.
The best feature on this gun is the grips.. OMG they're wonderful.
Probably the most comfortable grips I've ever felt on a revolver.
Even though the grip is short and your pinky kinda hangs out at the bottom it has a little indent for it.
It feels like you have a really sold grip on it, I got the non-ultra-lite model
So it's all steel and a few oz heavier because of it.. snubbie or not I expect it to have very little recoil I imagine the grips will soak up a lot of it.
I know a lot of people hate on Taurus but I don't know how anyone could hate on the 85 at this price.
My sister got her hands on it and now wants one
http://i65.tinypic.com/2qs2zhi.jpg
So with today's acquisitions im up to 8 Taurus and they're officially my most owned brand.
Hate all you want on them, That just means they'll be cheaper when I pick mine up
A pair of 809's, a 738 "TCP", and a Mod. 85 revolver.
John Woo special, The 809's
I picked up a pair of these after hearing they was discontinued and seeing the prices hover just above 200.
These are polymer framed, hammer fired full size guns.
Seems like a oddity these days so I had to nab a pair.
Sadly the shop I bought from was not able to send me sequential serials
I did not compare it to my current carry gun the Taurus 99 (Same size as a Beretta 92) But I'd say it's at least as big and heavy.
Gun comes in a hard case, It's actually pretty decent quality, molded foam.
A cheap useless mag loader, 2 mags, 2 extra changeable back straps, and a cleaning brush.. or at least it was suppose to both of them was missing the brush.
The sticker on the case has a late April date, but these was suppose to have been discontinued the end of 2016, I tried to do a serial search but both guns show "not found".. Have to ask Taurus about it.
When I first picked the gun up my first thoughts was DAMN this grip is big.
I think the problem isn't that it's big but that it's long.. that and the fact that it's hard and rough, Im use to rubber grips on most guns I think it would feel a lot better with rubber.
After about 15mins of handling it started to feel better to me, Im also gonna try to swap the back straps.
Field strip is a snap, take down is like a glock but without the trigger pull.
The entire gun is fully Ambi, But I think it comes at a price, The mag release while being small is also harder then I like.
The mag itself seems high quality, holds 17, has individual witness holes.
The base plate has a sort of swoop for your pinky but honestly it's completely unnecessary the gun is full size my hand comes no where near the mag base plate so that's probably gonna get trimmed flat.
Speaking of mags I did not break out a 92 mag to compare but they look fairly similar to a 92 mag, Im betting I can modify mags to fit this thing.
Besides the mag release the controls are easy to manipulate, smooth, and positive.
Im not a fan of their choice of triggers, it's polymer, it's not uncomfortable but I think it has some flex to it.. If anyone made a aftermarket metal trigger at reasonable price I'd be interested.
The DA trigger is very heavy on this beast, worse yet it's kinda gritty, I think I already identified the source of that grit.. a good cleaning might fix it but if not a quick fluff and buff would probably do wonders for smoothing the trigger.
I imagine I'll be looking at a hammer spring swap to lower the pull weight.. No way you're gonna pull the trigger by accident on this.
SA trigger was quite decent, very crisp, don't have a trigger gauge but probably around 4-4.5lb If I had to guess.
Overall I like the gun but I gotta do something about that trigger.. the DA is just outta control on it.
*Due to image in post limitations I've only included a few the rest are links
http://i65.tinypic.com/vy1gs1.jpg
http://i63.tinypic.com/158bgiv.jpg
http://i64.tinypic.com/dxn0ih.jpg
http://i67.tinypic.com/24ezxoj.jpg
http://i64.tinypic.com/xblk3k.jpg
The PT738 A.K.A "TCP"
I bought the 738 solely cause of price, It's a .380acp
Honestly I did not want to add 380 to my list of calibers to stock.
But when I came across this thing for $137 new.. How could I resist that?
So there's not much to say about this gun, The first thing you notice is wow it's lite, I think Taurus clocks it some where around 10 or 11oz.
The 2nd thing you notice is wow this thing feels like a toy, heck it looks like a toy even.
I mean everything about it screams delicate, the frame feels kinda cheap and the plastic is very thin, the slide is very thin, the barrel is paper thin.. seriously I would just assume the barrel would blow up if you shot this thing.
But I know they don't so they must have put the right stuff at the right spots.
I mean the barrel and slide you can tell they're metal but they almost feel like aluminum they're so light and thin, It's absolutely nuts.
Im kinda curious how it does at the range I imagine that .380 is gonna show me how it's full grown shooting out of this thing.
The mag is quality, infact it says mfg by mec-gar so at least we know that's good to go
The gun has a concealed hammer so not striker fired but is this weird setup where it's SA but has a long trigger pull anyway, reminds me of DA given the length and weight of the pull.
I think given size constraint the hammer must do a really wild 270degree rotation or something to get the momentum to fire.
Anyway no manual safety, does have slide release and last round hold open.
Trigger is long, and feels like a DA trigger but is smooth and manageable.
Have to wait and see what it does at the range it definitely has me interested.. I keep having to tell my self this isn't a toy but it sure feels like one, Guess that's the sacrifice for going this far down the rabbit hole.
Model 85.
Model 85 was another "value" buy.
I didn't own any snubbies and I kinda wanted one but it was so far down my list.
I would have rather had a 357 but I honestly can't remember the last time I shot 357's out of my 357's.. Given these have 40 dollar rebates right now I got this one at a steal.. 194 - 40 = 154.. couldn't pass it up.
Out of the 4 I got today I was most excited before hand for the 809's
But I gotta tell ya, Im tickled pink with this thing.. Obviously I've not had it to the range yet but everything checks out on it.
-Finish was fine
-Gap is pretty good
-Lock up is good but not vice tight :/ well within acceptable though.
-No end play or anything, Timing is perfect.
-Ejection is good
-Cylnder spin is smooth, Ejector rod is straight.
DA trigger is heavy which is to be expected but silky smooth & SA is really nice.
The best feature on this gun is the grips.. OMG they're wonderful.
Probably the most comfortable grips I've ever felt on a revolver.
Even though the grip is short and your pinky kinda hangs out at the bottom it has a little indent for it.
It feels like you have a really sold grip on it, I got the non-ultra-lite model
So it's all steel and a few oz heavier because of it.. snubbie or not I expect it to have very little recoil I imagine the grips will soak up a lot of it.
I know a lot of people hate on Taurus but I don't know how anyone could hate on the 85 at this price.
My sister got her hands on it and now wants one
http://i65.tinypic.com/2qs2zhi.jpg
So with today's acquisitions im up to 8 Taurus and they're officially my most owned brand.
Hate all you want on them, That just means they'll be cheaper when I pick mine up