A new strategy for RKBA

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glock glockler

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I think one of the main problems with the way we are fighting this war is that we are always trying to defend the legitimacy of guns, which will always have negative connotations. When we do this we are fighting on their terms, and we are losing to show for it. I propose a new strategy, fight it on our terms and go on the offensive.

The underlying issue here is violence and how to go about lowering it. If we redirect the arguement to one of the root causes of much of the violence in our society, the drug war, we stand a much better chance of retaining our rights. I know that you are staunchly opposed to drug laws and are probably very familiar with their destructive consequences (if not, this is an excellent page with great links http://www.drcnet.org)

If we can put the ball into our court we can start kicking some major ass. The Democrats will jump on board and the republicans will have to put up or shut up.
After a cost/benefit analysis, many Republican geared people would wind up agreeing with us, and by properly argueing the issue the range of people that could be swayed would include: Freedom minded people, enviormentalists, "oppressed minorities", Anti-Big buisness Socialists, gay rights activists, prescription drug using senior citizens, hell even some soccer moms might join as well (maybe Im reaching here).


There seems to be an incredible amount of potential here, both for retaining our gun rights and for lessening the destructive affects of the excessive government. We would, of course, lobby as fiercly as ever for gun rights, but alot of the pressure on us would be relieved. Perhaps with a grassroots effort we could get Drudge, Rush, G. Gordon Liddy, Bill Mayer, Denis Miller, John Stewart, and others to at least debate the topic. We could have our enemies do our work for us for a change.
I appreciate your efforts in this matter and thank you for your enthusiasm, if only all gun owners made as much effort. Please, let me know what you think.

Thanks

[This message has been edited by glock glockler (edited August 06, 2000).]

[This message has been edited by glock glockler (edited August 06, 2000).]
 
Good points, but why will guns always have negative connotations? They're just pieces of metal. Can't they at least be innocuous, or even viewed positively? Of course they can! In a sense, it's all marketing.

However, it's true that the real problem isn't guns themselves, but how they're used. The real problem is violence, lack of respect for life and freedom, and lack of morals. So, how do we address those problems? Certainly we should bring them up in our discussions with other people, but what is the solution? Perhaps the government should stop condoning drug abuse, welfare mooching, single-parent families, exported jobs and socialism.

Maybe the emphasis should be placed on a sort of compassionate traditionalism: traditional family values with a compassion and tolerance for those who believe otherwise. The government can't mandate that sort of thing, though, (although they can promote it - marketing, remember!?) it has to come from the people - who need to get up off their fat butts and do something to preserve their freedoms. (All it takes for evil to win is for good people to do nothing.) I think the solution is religion.

But, on the other hand, maybe violence is just an excuse for those with a lust for power to disarm and tyrannically rule the populace. Sure, it reeks of conspiracy theories, something we all hate to consider, but isn't it a possibility? I think so.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by glock glockler:
...we are always trying to defend the legitimacy of guns, which will always have negative connotations. When we do this we are fighting on their terms, and we are losing to show for it. I propose a new strategy, fight it on our terms and go on the offensive.

The underlying issue here is violence and how to go about lowering it. ...[/quote]



[This message has been edited by seronac (edited August 07, 2000).]
 
There are many reasons why this would be a beneficial undertaking. After looking into it in any depth, one actually realizes just how badly we are getting screwed.

-the benefits of legalized hemp are legion. The industrial, medical, and enviormental uses for it are absolutley titanic.

-the war on drugs causes so many of the problems that we are forced to deal with. From drug dealers making our country into a warzone to law enforcement resorting to Gestapo-like tactics, the biggest losers are us.

-We would be able to use this as another tool in our arsenol to protect our freedom. There are very negative trends that are uccuring in our society (the culture war), including this one. The fact that so many Americans are apathetic about or condone the government telling them what they are allowed to consume speaks volumes. This is a start to increased personal responsibility and freedom.

The negative connotations ARE a result of marketing, but how much control over that do we have? This change of tactics will be our marketing strategy. We can put the negative connotation where it belongs, and we can get ALOT of people behind us on this one. This is the true beauty of this approach, the amount of people who would not normally support gun ownership who would be working for our freedom.
 
Question,

Why would the pro-drug democrats and liberals then want to repeal the gun laws? Please explain. I'm for both, but I haven't yet made the connection.

Won't most just see this as a legal way to get high, and still be anti-gun?

Will anti-gun, pro-drug liberals switch, or is this a suggested sneaky comprimise to get a win-win?

I think I understand everything posted so far, but please explain why anti dems and reps will switch.

Thank you.
 
The reason ending drug prohibition would help the gun rights movement in the short term is, there would be a massive drop in street violence as the black markets created by the prohibition dry up and blow away. Even the Clintons would have to stop claiming that 12 "kids" a day die from gun violence.

Of course, this would do nothing about the public school shootings which have boosted the recent wave of gun-grabbing. But in the larger scheme of things, we should consider that the War on Drugs has helped make the government strong enough that it could even think about disarming us. And it also reinforces the dangerous notion that ordinary citizens are too foolish to avoid destroying themselves with dangerous items, such as psychoactive drugs -- or firearms.

--The Beez
 
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