Talk about having the best family ! My wife, daughter and son all chipped in and bought dad a Dillon 650 ! I've been wanting one for a while now as i've developed some tendinitis in my right elbow from too much arm repititions loading pistol and 223 bulk on my LEE classic turret. It wasn't really an issue until as of the past couple years my wife has started shooting pistol so our pistol ammo usage has doubled. Spent the last week familiarizing myself, watching vids and so on. These Dillon's are just what they say as far as top of the line for recreational handloading. I almost bought a Dillon 550 way back when I wanted to initially get into handloading and glad I worked my way up from RCBS single , to the LEE CT , and now the Dillon. There is a LOT of detais you need to clearly understand to be sucessfull with the Dillon's. I must say as long as you have all the dies precisely adjusted the press works amazing ! I had to fabricate an adaptor plate on my riser setup to facilitate the need for the "overhang" when using the Dillon. My riser can still also mount my RCBS single. At some point I will probably rearrange my basement to allow the Dillon and the RCBS single to be permanently mounted.