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The Last Line of Defense
The right to bear arms is a matter of individual safety and, ultimately, freedom. The issue goes far beyond gun nuts.

By ROBERT J. COTTROL

The central premise of the gun control movement is that society becomes more civilized when the citizen surrenders the means of self-defense, leaving the state a monopoly of force.

That this premise goes largely unchallenged is the most remarkable feature of our gun control debate. We are ending a century that has repeatedly witnessed the consequences of unchecked state monopolies of force. University of Hawaii political scientist Rudolph J. Rummel, one of the leading students of democide (mass murder of civilian populations by governments), has estimated that nearly 170 million people have been murdered by their own governments in our century. The familiar list of mass murderers--Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot - only scratches the surface. The mass slaughter of helpless, unarmed civilian populations continues in Sudan, Rwanda, parts of the former Yugoslavia and East Timor.

The reluctance of outside forces to intervene is well documented. And yet the obvious question is strangely absent: Would arms in the hands of average citizens have made a difference? Could the overstretched Nazi war machine have murdered 11 million armed and resisting Europeans while also taking on the Soviet and Anglo-American
armies? Could 50,000 to 70,000 Khmer Rouge have butchered 2 million to 3 million armed Cambodians? The answers are by no means clear, but it is unconscionable that they are not being asked.

Need Americans have such concerns? We have been spared rule by dictators, but state tyranny can come in other forms. It can come when government refuses to protect unpopular groups--people who are disfavored because of their political or religious beliefs, their
ancestry or the color of their skin. Our past has certainly not been free of this brand of state tyranny. In the Jim Crow South, for example, government failed to protect blacks from extra-legal violence. Given our history, it's stunning that we fail to question those who would force us to rely totally on the state for defense.

Nor should our discussion be limited to foreign or historical examples. The lives and freedoms of decent, law-abiding citizens
throughout our nation, especially in our dangerous inner cities, are constantly threatened by criminal predators. This has devastated minority communities. And yet the effort to limit the right to armed self-defense has been most intense in such communities. Bans on firearm ownership in public housing, the constant effort to ban pistols poor people can afford--scornfully labeled "Saturday night specials" and "junk guns"--are denying the means of self-defense to entire communities in a failed attempt to disarm criminal predators. In many under-protected minority communities, citizens have been disarmed and left to the mercy of well-armed criminals.

This has led to further curtailment of freedom. Consider initiatives in recent years to require tenants in public housing to allow their apartments to be searched. First, police failed for decades to protect citizens in many of our most dangerous public housing projects. Next, as the situation became sufficiently desperate, tenants were prohibited from owning firearms for their own defense. Finally the demand came, "Surrender your right to privacy in your home." The message could not be clearer: A people incapable of protecting themselves will lose their rights as a free people, becoming either servile dependents
of the state or of the criminal predators who are their de facto masters.

All of this should force us to reconsider our debate over arms and rights. For too long, it has been framed as a question of the rights of sportsmen. It is far more serious: The 2nd Amendment has something
critical to say about the relationship between the citizen and the state. For most of human history, in most of the nations in the world, the individual has all too often been a helpless dependent of the state,
beholden to the state's benevolence and indeed competence for his physical survival.

The notion of a right to arms bespeaks a very different relationship. It says the individual is not simply a helpless bystander in the difficult and dangerous task of ensuring his or her safety. Instead, the citizen is an active participant, an equal partner with the state in ensuring not only his own safety but also that of his
community.

This is a serious right that takes the individual from servile dependency on the state to the status of participating citizen, capable of making intelligent choices in defense of life and ultimately of
freedom. This conception of citizenship recognizes that the ultimate civil right is the right to defend one's own life, that without that right all other rights are meaningless and that without the means, the
right to self-defense is but an empty promise.

Our serious thinkers have been absent from this debate for too long. The 2nd Amendment is too important to leave to the gun nuts.
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Robert J. Cottrol is a professor of law and history at George Washington University. His most recent book is "From African to Yankee:
Narratives of Slavery and Freedom in Antebellum New England" (M.E. Sharpe, 1998).
 
Absolutely amazing. Are you sure this was in the LA Times? Was it buried in some obscure section?

Isn't that what we've been saying until we're blue in the face?
 
"Need Americans have such concerns? We have been spared rule by dictators, but state tyranny can come in other forms."

What I don't get is this: Many argue that we don't have to worry about tyranny and that our gov't has served well and kept it's bounds so far. They look perplexed when you tell them that our gov't could, in a matter of a couple decades, turn from what it is into a total tyranny.
The reason they think that thought impossible is because America has been free so far for 200 years. Well, the thought does not cross their mind that the reason we are free is because we have had arms since the inception of our country. Of course America has remained (arguably) free...the second amendment gives the people power to insure that. Today's Americans have never seen first hand an outright assualt on their freedom in the form of a large armed force.

Then they argue that other countries have remained free without guns.
First, name a country that is truly free even though they have banned guns.
Second, the only reason that the rest of the world is remotely free is because WE, Americans, go over to their country, police it, and insure that it stays free. If America did not go around the world fighting communism and tyranny, most of the world would be in miserable slavery by now. If America were to fall, and turn into a tyranny, the rest of the world would follow. America is the bastion of freedom. When our light goes out, there will be no large power left to fight for the worlds' freedom. In other words, when it comes down to it, the freedom of the entire world depends on the second amendment. If we lose that power, our gov't becomes tyrannical, no one is going to come in and save our butts, and the rest of the world will follow us into slavery.

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I suspect they printed this to "balance" their reporting so no one can say they were biased.

Liberal math: 100 slanted anti-gun articles
for every pro-gun item = balanced reporting.

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If you can't fight City Hall, at least defecate on the steps.
 
This was printed on the same day in a "pro-con" editorial commentary with Salerno and Cottrol. Here is the "anti" piece that appeared.


Los Angeles Times
November 7, 1999


A Lethal Common Denominator

If we're not prepared to ban firearms ownership, our human failings mean
we're going to have massacres.

By STEVE SALERNO

Just as the gun control movement misperceives the nature of people, it
misperceives the nature of the guns themselves. I am referring to this
odd, oxymoronic notion of "gun safety" now sweeping the United States,
whereby we attempt to leach guns of their inherent nature, to tame them.

The same individuals who uphold the private citizen's right to
self-defense tout gun safety as an answer to the thousands of accidental
or impulse shootings each year. The fundamental Catch-22 should be
evident: Of what use is a gun for spontaneous self-defense if it must be
kept stored in a locked cabinet with its safety on and a trigger guard
in place? To be useful, a gun must be dangerous--unless one proposes to
ask the intruder to wait a moment while one unlocks the cabinet, removes
the trigger guard and snaps off the safety.

Moreover, the National Rifle Assn. is correct in pointing out that gun
control has proved tragicomically inadequate in stemming the tide of
violence. Hawaii's gun laws, already among the nation's strictest, did
not prevent last Tuesday's carnage at Xerox in Honolulu.

Severe punishment for violent offenders--the recourse held out by the
gun lobby as the antidote to the U.S. crime malaise--is of dubious value
as well. The law enforcement component kicks in only after the bodies
have been counted; therefore society is left defenseless against the
madman whose "first offense" takes out half a dozen or more family
members, co-workers or fellow students.

Indeed, the sorts of crimes that have blighted the nation in recent
years tend not to be the handiwork of monsters or even habitual
criminals, but rather one-time, random events--perhaps the final
desperate act of an everyday citizen gone berserk.

Note, too, how many of these crimes culminate in suicide. Thus at least
in those instances, the explosive violence is self-limiting, rendering
questions of punishment moot.

The crime is the same but the perpetrator is always different. In
Atlanta, it was Mark Barton, who murdered 12 people, including his wife
and children, before killing himself. Next time it will be someone else.

The lone common denominator in all recent tragedies was the presence of
the gun itself. After all, there have always been disagreements, and one
is hard-pressed to show that the urge to do harm to one's neighbors is
more prevalent than it used to be. Rather, it is the quantum
"improvement" in the technology of violence that makes today's clashes
so lethal. In the schoolyards of my youth, for example, skirmishes ended
as fistfights. Kids sometimes went home with bloody noses, but they went
home--alive.

The upshot should be clear. Preventing these unpredictable flare-ups
depends on separating people from the ability to express their rage in
gruesome, irrevocable ways.

We seem able to apply such logic in larger contexts: The doctrine of
nuclear disarmament represents mankind's (belated) acknowledgment that
it can't be trusted with atomic weapons. Only where guns are concerned
have the prevailing political gales eroded our resolve to abide by what
our instincts tell us: that no halfway measures will succeed at
mitigating the violence.

If we are not prepared to ban most private ownership of guns--and then
enact the most extreme penalties for violations--we might as well stop
the posturing and hand-wringing and just accept the fact that we're
going to have our occasional Columbines and Honolulus and Seattles and
Atlantas and Granada Hills.

Put it all down to upkeep on the 2nd Amendment. That's the end point of
all honest debate, the inescapable bottom line.
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Steve Salerno Is a Professor of Journalism at Indiana University
 
Yes, and the lone common denominator in the tragedies at Waco and Ruby Ridge was the US Govt.

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jones
 
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