A Few Glock Questions

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Adizzle19

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I'll start by saying I live in Massachusetts: the land of cripplemags and state mandates crap triggers.

Thinking about buying another Glock to complement my other pistols. Currently own a shield 9 and Gen2 G19. Considering either a Gen3/4 G34, G35, or G22. I've been considering a few things:

-How difficult is it to convert a G34 to a G35? I know the .40->9mm swap is easy, but how difficult is the other way? I'd only be planning on using the pistol for anything remotely serious in stock configuration.

-Based on the pistols I currently own, I don't really want a G17, too close to my G19 to justify that expense. I would like to *possibly* add another pistol caliber to the stockpile, and .40 seems like a decent bet because it's readily available, and I can convert it to 9mm which I like a lot and have a lot of already. Is it worth adding another caliber to the stable in the G22? Also, prebans abound, which is enticing.

-If I buy a G22, G34, G35 frame what slides will work on each? I actually plan to buy a Glock frame and add a slide later.

-Lastly, how do the G34/35/22 compare based on your experiences? I've never shot any of the three. The only .40 I've ever shot is my friends MP40, which didn't seem to have as much recoil as most espouse, but a little more than my 9s.

PS: even the free state MP triggers kind of suck, mushy and gross start to finish.
PPS: there exists the distinct possibility I'll go blow my cash on ammo or more prebans or a shoulder thing that goes up.
 
You can't convert a 9mm Glock to a 40S&W. The barrel is about .022" larger in diameter and the breech tab is also wider. Going from 40S&W to 9mm requires a conversion barrel. You may have to change out both the ejector and extractor and put a lighter recoil spring in to get 100% function. Youalso have the option of dropping in a .357SIG barrel in the 40S&W guns, nothing else needs to change.

Full size small frame Glocks are identical: G17/G34/G17L/G22/G35/G24 and the G31. The only part difference is the ejector in the trigger group and that can be changed out. You may think a G17 is too close to a G19, but they are 2 completely different guns. You cannot put a G17 top on a G19, they have a different lockup. The G19 was the first Glock I acquired.

I have been shooting Glocks in competition since 1992 and gone thru various models, including the G22/G35/G24 and the G17/G34 and G17L. I have only been using a G17 for about the last 10 years and carry a G31 (.357SIG, same size as the G17/G22).

In my experience, about 20,000 rounds a year, the is nothing the longer slides can do that a G17 can't do. The difference in sight radius is minimal, even to 40 yards. Yes, it is somewhat easier to pick up a 6" plate at that distance. The longer the slide, the longer the cycle time. The 40S&W has more recoil than a 9mm, so recovery time is longer. 40 ammo costs more. Kinda of depends on what you want to use the gun for. All will work for defense, you may find the longer slides easier to shoot a box target from behind a bench, the G17/G22 will work much better for training and competition where most shots are within 15 yards. The 40S&W's make major power floor for the gun games, 9mm's are minor (difference is scoring value). If you reload, 9mm's are far cheaper than 40 bullets, it's all based on weight.

Don't expect a 1911/CZ short reset trigger pull from any Glock, it doesn't work that way. You can add an aftermarket drop in for about $250, and it will help, but Glocks are not mechanically 1911s. The only real way to get used to a Glock is to pull the trigger about 50,000 times. However, a Glock will do one thing no other platform has done yet, and that is go to over 1,000,000 rounds, if you should live so long. I working on 400,000 rounds now, but don't think I'll live long enough to make it to a million....

The only thing on any Glock that does suck is the OEM sights, completely worthless. But there are a great number of after maket sights that are great. Taran Tactical, Dawson Precision, Heinies,

G17 frame left, G19 frame right

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Worthless OEM ? WIHA tools makes a very nice precision wrench to change that front sight !!
BTW I don't have a Glock but I remember complaints about the plastic sights!
 
mete, you don't even own a Glock? but you know about the front sight tool? There is only like 20 of them out there. Ok, I've only changed out over 300 Glock sights for aftermarket, how about you? But you would have to have a Glock to do that, wouldn't you?

P71, really? I have been shooting competition matches for over 30 years and have never, ever, seen one of those until last weeks USPSA match. Newbie guy had one, sucked.

Really to both of you guys, either you have actual real experience with Glocks, or not. Your guys are not....
 
I have experience with glocks and i have owned one. I dont like them, but respect them, and that is fine. If they fit you and work for you then great

9x45

Im sure the PPQ you encountered didnt suck, but more the shooter did. As they say its the indian, not the arrow.

The walther i had in my flawed opinion was superior to a similar model glock in every way. But i am a 1911 guy anyways and dont care for polymer striker fired guns in general
 
The G22 is a good choice in a full size 40S&W. As 9x45 said, there's really not that much to gain going with a longer slide/barrel unless you truly have a specific use. The G22 turns up at good prices as a LE trade in. A few years ago I picked up a Gen 2 with decent night sights for about $325. Though there was holster wear, internally the pistol was quite good.
 
I would like to have another caliber on hand besides 9mm, and since .45 was a little too rich for my blood I thought .40 was a good compromise. Plus, a 9mm barrel would drop right in if I wanted. Also, .40 Glock prebans are way cheaper and way more common in MA than 9mm. Leaning toward a 22 I think. Haven't decided whether it will be gen 3 or 4 yet. I read elsewhere that the gen 4 handles the .40 recoil a bit better.

Not sure if I mentioned this already but I'm planning on buying an oem frame and adding either a lone wolf or oem slide, haven't decided which yet.
 
40S&W is a good caliber. Try to handle a standard sized G22/17 in Gen3 and Gen4, one will feel better to you. Early on the Gen4 worked much better in 40 as the 9mm "stumbled out of the blocks". Everyone is different but I don't mind the Gen 3 or Gen 4 in the standard size or subcompact size (G27/26). However I do prefer the fit of the Gen4 compact (G23/19).

Why are you thinking of getting the frame and slide separately?
 
P71, do you shoot any competition? Like USPSA/IDPA/Steel Challenge with your PPQ? The PPQ did suck. I ran it thru a stage myself because I'd never ever seen one used before. It had awful sights, an awful trigger, and the worst part was it didn't have a mag release button, it had a mag release lever along side the trigger guard. I had the shooter run my old G17 thru the same stage and he had better hits and a faster time than with this gun. Nothing about that gun is good for competition and because it's not common, you have almost no after market choices for sights, triggers, holsters, etc. If you are shooting a box target from behind a bench, not scored or timed, not from the holster, then it doesn't make any difference. The reason you see swo many 1911's,CZs and Glocks in USPSA/IDPA/Steel Challenge is because they run good and do everything faster than other weapon platforms. The top shooters can chose any gun they want, in fact, they get free guns, but they mostly use 1911's, CZ's and Glocks.

Back on topic, the OP specifically asked about 3 Glock models, the G22, G34 and G35 from shooters who have experience with those 3 models. Since you only had one Glock, don't know which one, you can't really comment on the difference between the 3 models, can you?
 
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I have owned all 3 of those Glock models. Ive switched over almost exclusively to 9mm platforms, but here is my take.

Get a G22. Buy an aftermarket 40-9 Barrel and be done with it. The only advantage a G34/35 would give you is a slightly longer sight radius and maybe a little bumb in velocity. Neither one is likely to make a difference in 95% of the shooting the avg guy does.

If i was still using a "duty" gun in an exposed holster, i MIGHT use a G34. As a HD/SD/range toy...no need for the longer slide. My EDC gun is a G19 and it will do everything i can ask a pistol to do
 
"IMHO", anything a full-size .40S&W Glock does, a full-size 10mm or .45ACP Glock does a little better. My Gen4 G-21 made my Gen4 G-22 redundant, I traded it off, and I don't miss it a little bit.
 
If you truly want another Glock, get the G22 and maybe a 40-9mm barrel.
Given that you already have a G19 (already very good multipurpose Glock), I recommend getting something else -- something all steel like a 1911. I think the variety will be more satisfying.
 
9x45

I do not shoot competition, so will not comment on that aspect as i have no experience. The PPQ does have awful sights, the one i had i replaced with a set of dawson precision examples with a much tighter sight picture. You must have handles the one and only example with a bad trigger, as mine and all the ones i have tried had superb triggers in every qspect. There is quite a developing aftermarket for the PPQ, there are at least 4 companes making sights, and apex is working on a trigger kit as we speak. Although it is not needed. i do know the differences between the glocks mentioned by the OP, but have only shot the 17,19,20,21,22,23,26, and 42. Gen3s and 4s. I make no false claims and only state my experiences and opinon. Which everybody else does. Kind of seems like you are targeting me for some reason
 
Maybe I should ask another question to help clarify my problem:

Do you keep multiple pistol/ rifle calibers on hand? If so, do you do so to give yourself flexibility in finding ammo to purchase and shoot? I only stock 9mm right now, and in the event it becomes scarce again, I thought adding a gun of a different caliber, possibly a .40 Glock would be logical since I could also shoot 9mm from it for cheap and since preban magazines are much cheaper and more available than 9mm. I also chose .40 instead of .45 since it's usually cheaper.

9mm would still be my go to for most applications but .40 would be ready if I ever needed it.
 
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