A Dark Day in Canada

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westcangunner

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Early this morning, the Canadian SUPREME COURT ruled against Alberta and at least 6 other provinces (states) removing the LAST HOPE we had of our government coming to there senses. Many of us thought/hoped that a common sense court decision would be the way out of this gun REGISTRATION scheme that has cost over 300 million dollars and is expected to cost at least 3/4 billion before our firearms are listed in the government computers. 750 million dollars to make us Canadians safe.

Kinda gives you goose bumps eh??

Well, I gotta go sharpen some sticks.....

WCG





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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Supreme Court backs gun control law

WebPosted Thu Jun 15 16:23:18 2000

OTTAWA - Canada's highest court has upheld the federal gun control law.

In a unanimous decision, the court said the federal government has the right to protect public safety.

Members of the gun lobby reacted immediately. They say they'll file other court cases based on individual rights guaranteed by the Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

The Firearms Act, or Bill C-68, requires gun owners to be licensed by the end of this year and to register all firearms by the end of 2002. There are seven million guns in the country. Only 1.6 million are registered.

"Guns...are also used for crime and suicide, and cause accidental death and injury," the court said in its decision. "All guns are capable of killing and maiming. It follows that all guns are a threat to public safety. As such, their control falls within the criminal law power."

Alberta, backed by five provinces and two territories, had launched a challenge to the bill. They said it encroached on provincial jurisdiction.

Alberta's justice minister, Dave Hancock, says this is a "bad" law but he's encouraging gun owners in his province to abide by it.

The gun registry has been set up to keep track of the millions of guns in the country. It is expected to cost about $125 million in the first five years.

Police and women's groups applaud the decision.

"Rifles and guns are the guns ...most often used to kill," said Wendy Cukier of the Coalition for Gun Control. "Licensing and registration is critical to keeping guns out of the hands of people who are a danger to themselves and to controlling the illegal gun trade."

Justice Minister Anne McLellan is expected to make changes to the law to make it easier for gun owners to register. She'll cut the $45 licence fee to $10 and she'll streamline the registration form to one page.[/quote]

I’m sorry to hear that this is happening in your country, west. :( I only hope that we’ll have the time and motivated people to keep it from happening here.

Is the civil disobedience still an ongoing thing for all of you? I had heard about a plan for TONS of gun owners planning to turn themselves in after the deadline and clog the court system.


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The "grass roots" LUFA org is based out of a small town in Western Canada and is preaching the civil disobediance plans. There are 16000 members and they seem commited to end this BS by supporting the first "lawabider" that is arrested. Most folks I know of have not even THOUGHT about getting there licence yet and it seems that only about 350000 (non restricted) guns have been registered so far and that would likely just be "new" sales and dealer inventory. Another interesting number in the latest issue of PointBlank (the Canadian NFA publication) is that only 425000 licenses have been issued so far, a FAR cry from the 3 million estimated firearm owners. The really strange thing about this number is that 261000 of the 425 are "old FAC's so in reality they have only issued 164000 new licenses and Ill bet most of then are to folks that have handguns and need the licence to get transport permits. I know thats the only reason I got mine. So, there appears almost NO compliance so far, and its now become IMPOSSIBLE (no time left) to be able to licence the remaining "lawabiders" by Jan0101.

Yup gonna get pretty interesting up here...

Almost every one I know is going to wait till the absoulte last second to comply.

WCG
 
If you are forced to register don't tell them about any guns you really want to keep.
Think about how you might be able to register a sacrifice gun(but keep the real thing)--Just a few thoughts.
 
West Can... good to see another Canadian on this here Page.

It is sad to say that the ruling got turned over, 9 out of our 12 Provinces/Territories have registered complaints and Oppose the gun Law, Yet they are still going to pass it.

I own Handguns so I too allready have my "new" firearms License's, but I do like the way they handle restricted weapons purchases now.... in and out the same day and take your handgun home.

Email me if your interested in talking more.. allways good to have another fellow canadian in the address book.

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Sorry to hear of the defeat of common sense.
It shows that political pressure is also present in the Courts, where politics have no place.

Best Regards,
Don

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The most foolish mistake we could make would be to allow the subjected people to carry arms;
History shows that all conquerers who have allowed their subjected people to carry arms have prepared their own fall.
Adolf Hitler
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"Corrupt the young, get them away from religion. Get them interested in sex. Make them superficial, and destroy their rugged- ness.
Get control of all means of publicity, and thereby get the peoples' mind off their government by focusing their attention on athletics, sexy books and plays, and other trivialities.
Divide the people into hostile groups by constantly harping on controversial matters of no importance."

Vladimir Ilich Lenin, former leader of USSR
 
I am not Canadian, but I've spent a lot of time there. It's beutiful land. It is a great shame to have it degraded by leftist laws.

Do not obey. Obediance to laws that harm you is the behaviour of livestock.
 
Who knows but that Canadians who have their heads screwed on right might well recognize the threat to such other rights as they might have, that is inherent in this C-68, and vote out, those who voted the law in.

Possibly, that having been done, the law, C-68 itself, could then be scrapped.
 
I particularly was amused by the statement in the article "Rifles and guns are the guns ...most often used to kill," said Wendy Cukier ..."

Sounds to me like Wendy is getting Cukier and Cukier by the minute. Spoken like a true know-nothing gun grabbing screeching harridan.

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Gun Control: The proposition that a woman found dead in an alley, raped and strangled with her own panty hose, is more acceptable than allowing that same woman to defend herself with a firearm.
 
westcangunner..

It was once posed to me via several friends in BC... that maybe the province(s) should consider seccession and/or petition the U.S. to become a "protectorate" or even a state....

what do you think??
 
We have a GREAT county up here, with some of the most unspoiled territory in the world. If you ever get a chance please come and experience it for yourselves. With our dollar the way it is, you Americans can have the cheapest vacation of your lives. Hey maybe we can host the TFL bash up here sometime. Just kidding, would hardly be much fun with no guns ......

Our current government has totally missed the boat on this registration scheme, and now seems to be too deep to admit defeat. The chance of being able to vote them out is almost non-exsistant. We have no other choice as of yet. There is a new party that is in the works, but I doubt it will be able to be much of a force in this upcoming election. Sadly those at the trough now, will in all probability still be there after the next election.

Over the years there has been alot of talk about the seccession of both the eastern (French) and the western (Redneck) provinces for a varity of differant reasons. I personally think we have more chance of being invaded by the Americans then just up and joining you guys. Someday and someday soon, one of our politicians will say or do something stupid, and Bush (your new President) will have to come up here and secure the lumber, agriculture, and oil and gas resources. The toughest decision your invading force will need to make, is if they want to include Manitoba in the spoils, or keep it neat and clean with just BC, Alberta, and Saskatchewan. Dont worry about any resistance, we only have 25 fighter jets, (probably all on loan to the Snowbird aerobatic team) some Seaking helecopters, (that no one will fly anyway) and I dont think the Russians have given our tank back yet, (the one they took from us in Bosnia).

Hows the opening of that song go again...

Ohooo sayyyyy, can youuu see.....

WCG

Yup, all in the name of "safety"

Westical, did you really get a handgun in one day?? I heard this before on here and kinda flamed the poster a bit. The best I've experienced (30 days ago) was 48 hours to get the TAN and about 4 hours to get the ATT by fax.
 
Let's take BC, Alberta, and Saskatchewan, plus the Yukon and NWT. Quebec can rejoin France, and the rest can go hang. Welcome to America guys.
 
westcangunner

Yup one day dude, my Glock Model 17 was in stock when I asked the guy about it and he got the TAN and Authorization to transport within 2 hours, all this on a Saturday even.

I deal with a Little Shop in Dawson Creek B.C. called Corlanes Sporting Goods, really great Guys to deal with and they will bend over backwards to help you out. Thier Prices are Average, but I have bought 3 Handguns from them in the Last 4 Months because of thier service and the way they care about the customer.

If you want to call them, here is the Number 250-782-2111 and ask for Scott or Tim. they are great guys to deal with.

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PROUD TO BE CANADIAN
 
westcangunner, still missing your tank, eh? ;) What a stitch.

Based upon that defensive system, seems as though they need as many honest gun owners as possible. ;)

Regards from AZ
 
I read an report that estimates that the real numbers of gun owners is close to 7 million with as much as 25 million rifles and handguns.
 
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