Glockster35
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What is the difference between these two rounds?
Are there any high quality rounds available in the 9x18 for use in the Mak?
Are there any high quality rounds available in the 9x18 for use in the Mak?
9x18 vs 9x19
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Just quickly off the top of my head - no concrete numbers to quote ya.
The 9x18 is a lot less effective than the 9x19 - it is only a hundred fps or so faster than the .380 (9x17). It is more substantial than the .380, but just doesn't measure up to the 9mm (9x19). The 9mm is much faster and carries heavier bullets. Bottom line is it's a little better then the .380, but no where near full power 9mm loads.
Hornady does put out some xtp hp ammo for it that I like and I'm sure there are others.
The 9x18 is a lot less effective than the 9x19 - it is only a hundred fps or so faster than the .380 (9x17). It is more substantial than the .380, but just doesn't measure up to the 9mm (9x19). The 9mm is much faster and carries heavier bullets. Bottom line is it's a little better then the .380, but no where near full power 9mm loads.
Hornady does put out some xtp hp ammo for it that I like and I'm sure there are others.
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9x18 is not the same dia. as 9x19 and 380 also.
I think it is like .365 vs .355 for 9x19.
As said before hornady offers HP for it.
it really is about the same as .380 power wise.
I think it is like .365 vs .355 for 9x19.
As said before hornady offers HP for it.
it really is about the same as .380 power wise.
The 9x18 is quite a bit hotter than the .380. More like a half step between the .380 and the 9x19. Unfortunately, most American ammo companies see fit to load their 9x18 loads so that they are virtually identical to their .380 loads.
You can think of a 9x18 as having bullet weight similar to the .380 and velocities just a bit lower than the 9x19.
You can think of a 9x18 as having bullet weight similar to the .380 and velocities just a bit lower than the 9x19.
Hi, guys,
Watch out when using the term "9x18" as there are two 9x18 cartridges, the 9x18 Makarov and the 9x18 Ultra, also called the 9x18 Police, and they are not interchangeable. The latter is even less powerful than the 9x18 Makarov and is used in the Walther PP Super and some other guns that never arrived here.
Jim
Watch out when using the term "9x18" as there are two 9x18 cartridges, the 9x18 Makarov and the 9x18 Ultra, also called the 9x18 Police, and they are not interchangeable. The latter is even less powerful than the 9x18 Makarov and is used in the Walther PP Super and some other guns that never arrived here.
Jim
Glockster....
CorBon made a very good carry round for the Mak. Unfortunately, they recently discontinued it.
However, the Hornady round exists, as do HP rounds from Barnaul, CCI/Speer, and Federal. You can even find some Glaser Safety Slugs floating around in this caliber.
BTW, you can still find the CorBon ammo around, but it will dry up soon enough.
CorBon made a very good carry round for the Mak. Unfortunately, they recently discontinued it.
However, the Hornady round exists, as do HP rounds from Barnaul, CCI/Speer, and Federal. You can even find some Glaser Safety Slugs floating around in this caliber.
BTW, you can still find the CorBon ammo around, but it will dry up soon enough.
Mike Irwin
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Well, that depends...
They're pretty close to being identical, at least in factory (9x18 Ultra) and military (Makarov) loadings.
Not surprising, given that the Makarov round was derived from the 9x18 Ultra round.
Herr Walther
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Oh but there are many PP Supers in this country. I have but two of them. They could also be had in 9mm kurz, but are much rarer than the 9mm Police. Only 3000 manufactured in .380, and about 6000 in 9mm Police. The Germans gave this pistol up for the P5 in 1979
The Sig-Sauer P230 was also chambered in the 9mm Police cartridge. That's one I haven't seen here yet. I have read that many Italian and several other European handguns are chambered in 9mm Police because of restrictions on owning a military caliber weapon.
Sorry for the history lesson. I start talking Walthers and I don't know when to quit sometimes.
The Sig-Sauer P230 was also chambered in the 9mm Police cartridge. That's one I haven't seen here yet. I have read that many Italian and several other European handguns are chambered in 9mm Police because of restrictions on owning a military caliber weapon.
Sorry for the history lesson. I start talking Walthers and I don't know when to quit sometimes.
Apple a Day
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9mm Kurtz/.380 =9x17mm 955 ft/s (95 grain)
9mm Makarov =9.25mmx18mm 1080 ft/s (95grain)
9mm Luger/Parabellum =9x19mm 1120 ft/s (115grain)
The Makarov is a little shorter and thicker [durned Russians have to do it their own way]
. There is plenty of hotter 109grain Makarov stuff out there, as well. The Russians have a "high impulse" Makarov round which you can't get in the U.S. and wouldn't want to shoot out of your Makarov anyway.
There are plenty of good rounds for the Makarov. I have put S&B, Hornady, Barnaul, SLV, Wolf, TCW, American Eagle and reloads through mine with nary a problem, neither ball nor hollow points. I won't touch the issue of hollow points at that weight/velocity, though.
9mm Makarov =9.25mmx18mm 1080 ft/s (95grain)
9mm Luger/Parabellum =9x19mm 1120 ft/s (115grain)
The Makarov is a little shorter and thicker [durned Russians have to do it their own way]
. There is plenty of hotter 109grain Makarov stuff out there, as well. The Russians have a "high impulse" Makarov round which you can't get in the U.S. and wouldn't want to shoot out of your Makarov anyway. There are plenty of good rounds for the Makarov. I have put S&B, Hornady, Barnaul, SLV, Wolf, TCW, American Eagle and reloads through mine with nary a problem, neither ball nor hollow points. I won't touch the issue of hollow points at that weight/velocity, though.
According to Golden Loki, the 95 grain Barnaul JHP is good for 1075 FPS and the expansion looks great. It's accurate out of my Bulgie with no FTFs or problems of any kind. Cheap too.
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