9mm/WSF?

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02bigdogs17

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Does anyone shoot 9mm with 124gr plated bullets? What kind of charges are working best for you? Started with 4.7 and have went up to 5gr and cases still seem pretty sooty. No signs of pressure so I'm thinking they need to go a bit hotter but accuracy is pretty good with 5 grs. Is this just one of those sooty powders? I was hoping this powder would be a lot cleaner than Unique. Thanks for any advice.
 
Sorry, I've used WSF but only with 147 gr plated bullets. I get cleaner cases when using faster powders with the 124 gr bullets. In general....
 
WSF is my "go to" powder for 115g 9mm. It is the best i have found for my uses. In my trials with it in 124g, I think I settled on 5.0g also ( don't have my records with me now). I would try 5.2 to see if that helps.

What barrel length are you usuing these in? Too short and you might not be able to improve on 5.0g.
 
Can you increase crimp on your 5.0/WSF/124 load, before increasing the charge? Sometimes this'll decrease the sootiness in other loads.
 
After testing with Power Pistol, CFE Pistol, HS-6, Bullseye, and WSF, I have settled on WSF as my 9mm powder choice. I used 124 gr. Precision Delta HP's seated to 1.10 COL for all my WSF testing. Started at 5.0 grs and worked up to 5.8 grs. Will probably load many thousands of rounds using 5.6 gr with a COL of 1.40.
Reason for using the 5.6 grain charge is it closely matches the performance of the store bought Federal 124 gr HST (P9HST1) standard pressure rounds I use for carry purpose. My chrono tests were done with 20 shot strings using 1x fired brass sorted by same head stamp fired from a Glock 26.

Federal HST; 1173 fps, ES-42, SD-10
WSF 5.6 gr; 1186 fps, ES-38, SD-9

Going to use 1.40 COL because I discovered Power Pistol actually developed a couple more fps with the longer COL (1.40 vs 1.10) so I set the seating die to 1.140 and am not ambitious enough to change it.
A big challenge in my reloading adventure was trying to come up with a load that developed the right kind of pressure to prevent the brass from getting sooty. Definitely made improvements but not perfection. I think I've decided Glocks run loose chamber tolerances and may never seal perfectly.
 
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To the OP. I read over and over to use lead bullet recipes for plated bullets. I have fired many thousands of plated Raniers and Berry's 9mm bullets. It says right on the Berry's box not to exceed 1250 fps. How many 9mm Luger loads, even with 115 gr bullets, do you find that exceed 1250 fps? Most in the load books don't even come close to 1200 fps. I say load plated like jacketed if you like... or not. Just my $.02
 
I am seating to 1.167" OAL and I'm going to try seating a little deeper and see if that might help. Also I have some Hodgdon titegroup and am looking at trying some of it since it is a faster burn rate maybe that's what this pistol needs since it only has a 3.5" barrel. Has anyone had good results with it in 9mm with 124 plated bullets?
 
I developed a great WSF load with little data available at the time. I'm using 125gr cast bullets, and worked up to 4.7gr to where my action would cycle properly. It got me 1150fps. 5gr sounds right for plated. Never experienced sooty cases with WSF. Seemed pretty clean to me compared to Bullseye or Unique.
 
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