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I just watched an online documentary about 9/11 that raises some very interesting questions.
It's on "loosechange.com" 2nd ed..
Anyone familiar with it?
I usually steer clear of ANYTHING that smacks of conspiracy theories:rolleyes: , but the aspects of 9/11 that were presented are very compelling.
Amazing in some cases!
Anyone else see this?
 
http://www.loosechange911.com
That's it....loosechange.com....2nd vol.
It's about 1.5 hrs but good viewing.
Even still, the number of people that would have to be involved in this to pull it off would make it virtually impossible to keep under wraps.
But still.........:confused:
 
Welcome to the rabbit hole. The official 911 story has more holes in it than OJ's alibi. Try this site:http://www.pilotsfor911truth.org/

Pilots for 9/11 Truth is an organization of aviation professionals and pilots throughout the globe that have gathered together for one purpose. We are commited to seeking the truth surrounding the events of the 11th of September 2001. Our main focus concentrates on the four flights, maneuvers performed and the reported pilots. We do not offer theory or point blame. However, we are focused on determining the truth of that fateful day since the United States Government doesn't seem to be very forthcoming with answers. We stand with the Scholars and Veterans for Truth along side family members of the victims -- family members of soldiers who have given the ultimate sacrifice -- including the many Ground Zero workers who are now ill or have passed away, when we ask for a new independent investigation into the events of 9/11. We do not accept the 9/11 Commission report as a satisfactory explanation for the sacrifice every American has made and continues to make -- some more than others.
Thank you for taking the time to inform yourself.

badbob
 
I saw the footage of the Pentagon showing the hole created by Flt. 77.
From what I saw, that's exactly what it was......a hole!
Not a hole with surrounding damage from the wings.
Just a big round hole.
The windows on either side of the hole are intact.
It's like you drove your car through the back wall of the grocery store with your doors wide open, but didn't knock anyhting off the shelves as you drove by.
And there was NO wreckage to speak of!?
Just a few relatively small pieces.
No bodies!?:confused:
Official explanation is everything vaporized.
77 had 2, 6 ton, Rolls Royce engines sheathed in Titanium.
Titanium melts at 1600+/- degrees.
Jet fuel burns at 1150+/- degrees and burns off quickly.
So where are the remains of the 2 engines.
Only a turbine was found but that doesn't come from ANY Rolls Royce engine, according to a spokesperson at RR.
77 is said to have bounced off the ground just prior to impact.
There are no signs of any "bounce" on the grounds in front of the impact zone.
And there is a hole on the other side of the building where 77 was supposed to have punched through.
That's 3 Pentagon sections 77 would have to have penetrated, along with 9 feet of steel reinforced concrete.
The nose of the 757 is made of lightweight carbon, hardly capable of such penetration.
And again, no wreckage at this hole either!
And then there are the reports by Pentagon staff noting the odor of Cordite, which is used to make ammo.
WTF!?!?!?
Now granted, I got all this off the site, but it would be so easy to verify the veracity of such statements that I can't see them putting out lies.
Right?:confused:
I don't know man!
I just don't know.:(
Anybody better versed on this than I that can shed some light on this?
 
While I don't buy into conspiracy, I am appalled at the coverup at the FAA shredding the tapes.

And the fact that we never saw wreckage in PA? Can anyone offer a valid reason to hide the crash site besides covering the fact that we shot it down.
 
It's like you drove your car through the back wall of the grocery store with your doors wide open, but didn't knock anyhting off the shelves as you drove by.
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You don't think the doors would sheer off? Same thing happens with the wings. The hole is about right for the size of aircraft, measuring approx the same width as from engine to engine on the plane.

The windows on either side of the hole are intact.
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If it was a cruise missile, do you think that the windows around it would be intact?

Titanium melts at 1600+/- degrees.
Jet fuel burns at 1150+/- degrees and burns off quickly.
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Jet fuel does not realy burn that quickly. Plus when you put it inside of a brick building with courtyards to feed the fire you have a ready-made blast furnace capable of increasing the heat. Same effect on the twin towers, the fire was fanned by high altitude winds and air that was drawn up through elevator shafts. Trust me, I know a little about jet fuel, I smell like it right now.;)

That's 3 Pentagon sections 77 would have to have penetrated, along with 9 feet of steel reinforced concrete.
The nose of the 757 is made of lightweight carbon, hardly capable of such penetration.
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Pretty sure it is aluminium, but at any rate if you push something fasst enough, it will go through just about anything. A tornado can put fence posts through brick walls with ease, those winds are at best half the speed of the aircraft when it hit. Plus, it did not penetrate very far into the third ring.

And then there are the reports by Pentagon staff noting the odor of Cordite, which is used to make ammo.
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We burn Jet A in our ground equipment. When you fire up a tug, it smells very similar to shooting in an indoor range.

Bottom line is that an airplane is not a very dense object. The only truely dense sections are the landing gear and the engines. The rest is just a hollow tube. It does not make a great penetrator, that is why our guns don't shoot hollow aluminum tubes. But when you push any object along at a tremendous rate of speed and it hits something, the damage is going to be great.

As for a lack of wreckage, there is no lack of wreckage. Pieces of engine and landing gear(the parts that I mentioned as being the only truely dense parts thus most likely to survive) are visable on pictures taken at the sight. I will have to do some digging, but I will find them.

An airplane piloted by the deranged members from a violent sect of Islam hit the Pentagon, trust me on this one.;)
 
I'll say this as nicely as I can, even though I'm sure I'll get indignated PMs in response.

There should be a community college or university in your town or nearby, where you can take classes in physics, aeronautical engineering, structural engineering, and mathematics if you need some more knowledge in those areas.

Additionally, if you'd like to debate conspiracy theories, there are plenty of places online to do so, but this is not one of them.

I don't believe anything my government tells me at face value, but to try and apply amateur "common sense" physics to invalidate such well-recorded and documented events as happened on 9/11 is not informed skepticism, it's unashamed willful ignorance or plain out loonbat tinfoil stuff.

Go here for some reading material regarding the endlessly-repeated claims echoed by DasBoot...for what good it's going to do. If you're convinced that there's a conspiracy, you'll dismiss the information, along with the testimony of hundreds of Beltway commuters who saw the plane crash into the Pentagon. (They must all be government plants or federal agents in on the deal.)

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread79655/pg1

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