I am seldom blunt on replies but these are just plain junk. I have had to replace two. For one thing, if you really take a good look, you will see that the finish is mostly just a stain with little or no real protection. I have seen these, off the rack with scratches. One that I had to replace cracked on the portion between the barrel and the mag tube. Oh yes, I have had to refinish two others after one season. .....