870 express tactical overhaul
- Thread starter Codycac
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JerseyDrez
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Some 'tactical' shooting classes will probably do you better then bolting on some 'tacticool' accessories.
JerseyDrez
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Hahaha.
Technosavant
New member
Sorry, Cody, but this:
is correct, even if you don't like to hear it.
Sounds like you've set it up fine so long as it works, but the proof is in the shooting. Even taking it out for some skeet will help you learn to shoot the thing (even if you will get odd looks, and you WILL get them, I do with my 870 Tac-2). Otherwise, all you have done is spent money on looks. You need to know and be able to employ it.
is correct, even if you don't like to hear it.
Sounds like you've set it up fine so long as it works, but the proof is in the shooting. Even taking it out for some skeet will help you learn to shoot the thing (even if you will get odd looks, and you WILL get them, I do with my 870 Tac-2). Otherwise, all you have done is spent money on looks. You need to know and be able to employ it.
Codycac...
... after you've been around the forum a while, you'll see why these responses become the norm. An awful lot of posters show pics of the most overly modified weapons you could imagine, then let drop that it's their first gun.
The assumption sort of becomes that posters who introduce themselves by showing a hot-rodded gun probably aren't experienced shooters. Most folks here have gained experience on pretty straightforward weapons before starting to mod things.
It's entirely possible that you know what you're doing, and that you can shoot just fine, and that this tac shotgun is just the newest piece in your collection. If so, you have my apologies on behalf of the others.
But like I said, watch the posts, and you'll see why people make the assumptions they do. For entertainment, if you haven't already, do a search on "Mall Ninja".
Oh, BTW, even when others provoke you, don't use terms like a$$hole, etc, or you may draw unwanted attention from the moderators. Remember the NFL, very often the ref doesn't see the first punch or shove, but flags the guy who responds for the personal foul.
Cheers,
M
... after you've been around the forum a while, you'll see why these responses become the norm. An awful lot of posters show pics of the most overly modified weapons you could imagine, then let drop that it's their first gun.
The assumption sort of becomes that posters who introduce themselves by showing a hot-rodded gun probably aren't experienced shooters. Most folks here have gained experience on pretty straightforward weapons before starting to mod things.
It's entirely possible that you know what you're doing, and that you can shoot just fine, and that this tac shotgun is just the newest piece in your collection. If so, you have my apologies on behalf of the others.
But like I said, watch the posts, and you'll see why people make the assumptions they do. For entertainment, if you haven't already, do a search on "Mall Ninja".
Oh, BTW, even when others provoke you, don't use terms like a$$hole, etc, or you may draw unwanted attention from the moderators. Remember the NFL, very often the ref doesn't see the first punch or shove, but flags the guy who responds for the personal foul.
Cheers,
M
Technosavant
New member
OK, I'll bite.
1) If you want to be treated as someone who is intelligent and competent, it might help to type in regular sentences with proper capitalization and punctuation. While you might well have all kinds of firearm experience, all we can go on is how you behave here. Typing like you are IM'ing your buddies generally doesn't come across as erudite.
1a) Neither does resorting to insults.
2) Instead of just saying what you did, try explaining why you made the additions, what you hope to gain from making the additions, and how you feel they have changed the feel of the gun. I have a Blackhawk/Knoxx stock on my 870 Tac-2, and it's one thing to say that you have one. It's quite another to say that you added one and felt that it really tamed recoil while helping control the shotgun by providing a somewhat more effective geometry for the trigger hand even though a good cheek weld is harder to get (all are true in my experience). Just coming in and announcing you added a bunch of bolt ons without saying how they work in practice just tend to make us look at a poster as though they learned everything they need to know about firearms from Counterstrike instead of somebody who is actually out running ammo through the thing.
3) Knowing and having experience with a firearm doesn't automatically translate to being able to employ a tricked out firearm as an actual weapon. Training helps. Even if you can't afford the time or cost of a real combat class, taking a shotgun out to a skeet/trap/sporting clays club for a few rounds will help you understand and gain familiarity with the thing. Want to feel like you can use it "fo' reals?" Take that pump gun and have at some skeet doubles- you get to work on leading a moving target, hitting a small target, engaging multiple targets, and learning how to pump it fast without short stroking, and you'll do that ALL AT THE SAME TIME.
4) Still no pics.
Still, dude, you may want to ditch the aggressive attitude- such things don't go over well here. We're quite welcoming of those with less politically correct firearms (heck, some of us are all about them), but stomping around like you're king of everything that goes bang usually translates to a short tenure.
JerseyDrez
New member
Well said, above 2 posters.
#18indycolts
Moderator
some on here don't want to answer your questions, they'd rather use the words "tacticool" and stuff. You're considered a heretic if your shotgun doesn't look like theirs.
I personally just don't understand the purpose of the thread...
Is no one else wondering this?
He made a thread, named a shotgun, listed a couple accessories, and that was it. No pictures, no questions, no request for comments or remarks... never even once said that he put them on his shotgun. He literally just named a shotgun and two accessories you can buy for it.
Hell I can ramble off random weapons and accessories too and make a thread of it.
Get out of here troll.
Is no one else wondering this?
He made a thread, named a shotgun, listed a couple accessories, and that was it. No pictures, no questions, no request for comments or remarks... never even once said that he put them on his shotgun. He literally just named a shotgun and two accessories you can buy for it.
Hell I can ramble off random weapons and accessories too and make a thread of it.
Get out of here troll.
xjmox14x...
... take another look at the OP; there's a broken little icon at the far right.
I've seen that before, back when I hadn't learned how to post a photo on TFL. My guess is the OP tried to attach a pic, but did it incorrectly. Having done it myself, I know it's easy to do.
Codycac, in order to post a pic here, you need to set up a photobucket or similar account. You then use the picture icon in the toolbar when you are setting up your post, copy the web address of the photo from your website, and paste it into the bar that will pop up when you click the photo icon.
Just trying to copy and paste does not work with TFL.
Good luck,
M
... take another look at the OP; there's a broken little icon at the far right.
I've seen that before, back when I hadn't learned how to post a photo on TFL. My guess is the OP tried to attach a pic, but did it incorrectly. Having done it myself, I know it's easy to do.
Codycac, in order to post a pic here, you need to set up a photobucket or similar account. You then use the picture icon in the toolbar when you are setting up your post, copy the web address of the photo from your website, and paste it into the bar that will pop up when you click the photo icon.
Just trying to copy and paste does not work with TFL.
Good luck,
M
stonewall50
New member
SO what about excesively long rants criticizing a guy sounds as if he A)won't listen B)Does NOT care C) and are generally condescending in manner? Just curious?
Technosavant
New member
So joining up to a board, talking a big game before establishing that you do in fact know what you're talking about, and then getting insulting and aggressive when people tell you that the operator matters more than the equipment is just fine?
You know, you aren't worth the response I had here.
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musicmatty
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I would like to see pictures...Im new here myself, so if your hyped on your gun, then thats good enough for me. 
stonewall50
New member
Techno...I think the guy got mad because of the CONDESCENDING manner of your rant. I know I dont take kindly to when people ASSUME I am an idiot. I learned on a single shot H&H .410 and worked my way up to my 870(I have shot Benelis and several brans of Over and Unders but nothing beats that 870).
I think there is a lesson here...if you cant say something nice then dont say anything at all. The guy DID post a picture of his gun, it did not show up. Not to mention the subject was Tac overhaul on an 870. Does the skill of the opperatior REALLY matter in the discussion? I mean if we are talking using the gun and how worthless certain features are then it DOES apply, but this is simply parts added on by the user and him showing it off a little bit. I think he was justified in calling people out for their responses.
I think there is a lesson here...if you cant say something nice then dont say anything at all. The guy DID post a picture of his gun, it did not show up. Not to mention the subject was Tac overhaul on an 870. Does the skill of the opperatior REALLY matter in the discussion? I mean if we are talking using the gun and how worthless certain features are then it DOES apply, but this is simply parts added on by the user and him showing it off a little bit. I think he was justified in calling people out for their responses.
This is teetering on the brink of The Abyss Of Deletion.
Everyone play nice.
A couple things,including opinions....
I come down hard on some folks' choice of accessories and even their choice of shotgun. That's when they try and substitute gadgetry for practice.
High round counts build proficiency and nothing else does.
I hope I do it without the poster thereof feeling attacked.
At the same time, if something enables you to get on the targets faster, better and/or in more comfort, go for it. As long as empty hulls are hitting the ground near you, fine.
I do think the best accessory for a new shotgun and shooter is a case or six of light loads, not anythng made by Knoxx, Wilson, Vang or Hi Viz.
Next, range tickets. A few fast sets of doubles at trap skeet or SC will show, as mentioned above, just how well you and your tool can function on small targets moving fast in pairs. And it's more fun than grinding out skill levels on a video game.
And for the record, those opinions are backed by 50 years of shotgunning, and a round count well into 5,maybe 6, figures.
Also, most of the shotguns here at Casa McC show consideral tweaking and some mods. Those happened after the wear marks started.
Dismounting from pulpit....
Everyone play nice.
A couple things,including opinions....
I come down hard on some folks' choice of accessories and even their choice of shotgun. That's when they try and substitute gadgetry for practice.
High round counts build proficiency and nothing else does.
I hope I do it without the poster thereof feeling attacked.
At the same time, if something enables you to get on the targets faster, better and/or in more comfort, go for it. As long as empty hulls are hitting the ground near you, fine.
I do think the best accessory for a new shotgun and shooter is a case or six of light loads, not anythng made by Knoxx, Wilson, Vang or Hi Viz.
Next, range tickets. A few fast sets of doubles at trap skeet or SC will show, as mentioned above, just how well you and your tool can function on small targets moving fast in pairs. And it's more fun than grinding out skill levels on a video game.
And for the record, those opinions are backed by 50 years of shotgunning, and a round count well into 5,maybe 6, figures.
Also, most of the shotguns here at Casa McC show consideral tweaking and some mods. Those happened after the wear marks started.
Dismounting from pulpit....