686 Recall? Call me embarassed. I missed it.

Nick_C_S

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I've been on TFL for some 20 months or so. During that time, I've seen brief mentions of a "686 recall" and it's usually framed as if everybody knows about it.

I don't.

I've done a search and I kind of got a feel that his has to do with the firing pin and hammer. (??) At any rate, I couldn't find anything about it comprehensively - just bits n pieces. I get the clear feeling that this recall took place a long time ago (decades?). So at the risk (certainty) of re-hashing something that "everybody should know," can anyone enlighten me on this please?

I have two 686-no-dash models (acquired new on 3/30/84; and 6/6/86). They've functioned just fine over the years so I'm not as concerned as I am curious.

Thanks.
- Nick.
 
First run. No dash. They had a problem with primer flow into the firing pin hole with hot rounds. Fix was at the factory or dept armorer. Replaced the firing pin bushing and hammer nose. Supposed to stamped with "M" in the yoke after they were modified.

You may never have a problem. Many didn't.
 
Mid 1980's as best I remember.

http://www.firearmsid.com/Recalls/F...1-1, 586-1, 681-1, 686-1 & 686CS-1, REVOLVERS


SMITH & WESSON
MODEL 581, 586, 681, 686, or 581-1,
586-1, 681-1, 686-1 & 686CS-1, REVOLVERS

RECALL: Reports have been received from the field where the combination of a SMITH & WESSON L-FRAME 357 MAGNUM REVOLVER and some .357 Magnum ammunition has resulted in unacceptable cylinder binding. L-frame revolvers bearing model numbers:

581, 586, 681, 686, or 581-1, 586-1,
681-1, 686-1, 686CS-1

Cylinder binding can cause a failure to fire. Mishandling a revolver while freeing the cylinder can result in accidental discharge.

Cylinder binding can result from a number of causes, including characteristics of an individual revolver or the use of ammunition, which does not conform to industry pressure specifications or is particularly fast burning. Recent developments in ammunition manufacture emphasize the production of .357 Magnum ammunition with increased velocity and greater primer sensitivity.

Although there have been very few reported incidents of cylinder binding, in view of our concern for our customer's safety and the reliability of Smith & Wesson products in all circumstances, we issue the following warning:

In a situation where a failure to fire can be critical - such as law enforcement or personal protection - do not use .357 Magnum ammunition with an L-frame revolver bearing model numbers 581, 586, 681, 686 or 581-1, 586-1, 681-1, 686-1, 686CS-1 without an "M" over the model number until you have had the revolver modified.

Those who need to use their L-frame revolver under these conditions prior to modification can safely fire .38 Special caliber ammunition.

Smith & Wesson has developed a modification to improve existing L-frame revolvers. This improvement enables them to fire all .357 Magnum ammunition, without cylinder binding. Shipments of L-frame revolvers from our factory after August 21, 1987 already include this improvement.

You can check if your revolver includes this improvement by looking at the left side of the frame when the cylinder is fully open. If your revolver has been stamped either with a "2" or higher number after the basic three-digit model number or with an "M" above the model number, your revolver includes this improvement and does not need modification. If your revolver bears the model number 581, 586, 681, 686, or 581-1, 586-1, 681-1, 686-1, 686CS-1 without an "M" over the model number, it does not include this improvement and your should have your revolver modified.

Smith & Wesson will modify your L-frame revolver free of charge to eliminate the possibility of cylinder binding with .357 Magnum ammunition. Law enforcement agencies wishing to arrange for modification of L-frame revolvers should call 800-458-8469 between 9 A.M. and 6 P.M. Eastern time (MA residents call 413-734-8244). Other users should send their revolvers to a Smith & Wesson Warranty Service Center, specifying "L-frame improvement program" and enclosing their name and return address.

One of the modifications to improve the L-frame revolver is the installation of a new hammer nose. This obsoletes all old L-frame hammer noses (part numbers 4702 and 7513) and all old L-frame hammer assemblies (part numbers 3366, 3378, 3380, 3382, 3391, 4722, 4723, 4726 and 4728) in field parts inventories. Superseded parts should never be fitted into a modified revolver as this may result in malfunction. It is essential for safety that you return these obsolete L-frame hammer noses and obsolete L-frame hammer assemblies for a free exchange to:

Smith & Wesson
Service Department
2100 Roosevelt Avenue
Springfield, MA 01101

Do not return L-frame hammer-nose bushings from your spare parts inventory inasmuch as they are useable in J, N and K-frame revolvers, which are not included in this Product Warning.

We regret any inconvenience this may cause. Smith & Wesson's first concern is the safety of its products and the protection of its customers.
 
I double-checked my two 686's today (not that I had any real doubt).

They are both "no-dash" models; and neither one has an "M" stamp - which would stand to reason because I bought them new; and I certainly didn't send them in for modification.

Just to reiterate: I'm not concerned about my guns. They've functioned fine for some 3 decades. I'm thinking if there was a problem, it would have manifested itself by now.

I just wanted to know more about the recall for my own general knowledge.

Thanks for your responses everyone.
 
I have seen some post over on the S&W Forum where a few owners believe it maybe even more collectible without the "M" stamp.

Not one to know, but there have been so many non-dash and dash-ones made in both 586 and 686 models to where I doubt either will be highly collectible. This is not to say they are not wonderful revolvers.

I did not know what the M stamp meant when I bought mine used until I researched it. Then I did not know what the 5 pointed star meant on early S&W's meant until I researched this aspect. One of the fun parts of any endeavor is learning new things. :)
 
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