50 Yds Proves To Be Quite The Challenge
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With proper training and technique 50 yards is not that difficult. Any middle of the pack Bullseye shooter can hold in the black.
When I converted to action shooting my club banned me from setting up the course of fire. I all ways included a couple of 50 yrd targets. The turn and burn top rated shooters could not hit the targets. Us beginners and the middle of pack guys would nail the target and beat the elite shooters.
When I converted to action shooting my club banned me from setting up the course of fire. I all ways included a couple of 50 yrd targets. The turn and burn top rated shooters could not hit the targets. Us beginners and the middle of pack guys would nail the target and beat the elite shooters.
Only way to start the day is with a course of slow fire at 50 yards. After that everything gets easier.
You can always tell us bullseye shooters and handgun hunters from the stand close and blaze away without looking at the sights guys. We aren't afraid of a little open space between us and the target.
You can always tell us bullseye shooters and handgun hunters from the stand close and blaze away without looking at the sights guys. We aren't afraid of a little open space between us and the target.
USNavy_233
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Beautiful piece.
"When I converted to action shooting my club banned me from setting up the course of fire. I all ways included a couple of 50 yrd targets. The turn and burn top rated shooters could not hit the targets. Us beginners and the middle of pack guys would nail the target and beat the elite shooters."
So, you are trying to say that a couple of 50 yard targets, that beginners and middle of the pack (Class C?) shooters can "nail" would gain you enough points to enable you to all beat the elite (Class A or Master?) shooters? Nice guess, no way. Sure, a bullseye shooter should have no problem with a couple of 50 yard targets, but that would be a very small percentage of the points in a regular match. Even if you scored better on those couple of long distance targets, it wouldn't be enough to make up for the rest of the stages. Middle of the pack action shooters are not better than the "elite" action shooters that you mentioned shooting at more difficult targets. Go to a match and see who has a more difficult time scoring on the more difficult targets. It is not the elite shooters. Mark
So, you are trying to say that a couple of 50 yard targets, that beginners and middle of the pack (Class C?) shooters can "nail" would gain you enough points to enable you to all beat the elite (Class A or Master?) shooters? Nice guess, no way. Sure, a bullseye shooter should have no problem with a couple of 50 yard targets, but that would be a very small percentage of the points in a regular match. Even if you scored better on those couple of long distance targets, it wouldn't be enough to make up for the rest of the stages. Middle of the pack action shooters are not better than the "elite" action shooters that you mentioned shooting at more difficult targets. Go to a match and see who has a more difficult time scoring on the more difficult targets. It is not the elite shooters. Mark
" Us beginners and the middle of pack guys would nail the target and beat the elite shooters."
He's still saying that the middle of the pack action shooters are better at hitting the long distance targets than the elite shooters. No mention that all of the beginners and middle of the pack shooters are bullseye shooters. Even on just a single stage a couple of targets are a small part of the stage. The elite shooters would still make it up on the rest of the stage. Do you guys actually shoot organized timed and scored matches to come to these conclusions? USPSA or something like that? It's a lot different than a couple of buddies messing around at the range and challenging each other. Mark
He's still saying that the middle of the pack action shooters are better at hitting the long distance targets than the elite shooters. No mention that all of the beginners and middle of the pack shooters are bullseye shooters. Even on just a single stage a couple of targets are a small part of the stage. The elite shooters would still make it up on the rest of the stage. Do you guys actually shoot organized timed and scored matches to come to these conclusions? USPSA or something like that? It's a lot different than a couple of buddies messing around at the range and challenging each other. Mark
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I think the camera makes them look more "red" than they actually are.
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I think the camera makes them look more "red" than they actually are.
Here's a link to those grips.
Nice folks to deal with and shipped the same day I purchased.
http://www.gungripsupply.com/vIndex.htm?cat51.htm
I would not call someone who can shoot fast and hit a big target at 3 yards "Elite". The Border patrol used to have a qualification stage at 50 yards where 12 shots were fired, left and right barricade from the standing and kneeling position. It is alot harder to make good hits at 50 yards than 25 yards off hand with a handgun. I read somewhere that at 50 yards sight errors were magnified 764 times, dunno how true it was but I was shooting PPC at the time and it sounded good. I shoot IDPA, until I retired I used my duty gun with duty amm(H&K P2K 40 with 155 HST's at 1250 FPS - DHS load) and was always in the top half in SSP. I always did better on the distant targets than some of the burners. One of the guys I shoot with is a 5 class master, I never beat him.
The shooters who are finishing at the top in action matches aren't finishing there because they can hit big targets at 3 yards quickly. Also, in action matches, a lot of your score comes from how well you do everything else, besides just the actualy shooting. Someone else in one of these posts mentioned the "elite" shooters at his matches. I don't know if he's just refering to the best at his local club or real top level national elite shooters.
Even on 25 yard or 50 yard targets at an action type match, there is still a time factor involved in how long it takes you to shoot and how well you score on the target. An experienced "bullseye" shooter may drill the down 0 or A zone dead center, but doesn't get any scoring advantage over someone else who hits the edge of the same zone faster. Watch or shoot an IDPA or USPSA match and see who typically scores better on the longer or more difficult targets.
You can shoot an action match and only concern yourself with accuracy, being very deliberate, but you won't score very well without balancing the accuracy with some speed.
Mark
Even on 25 yard or 50 yard targets at an action type match, there is still a time factor involved in how long it takes you to shoot and how well you score on the target. An experienced "bullseye" shooter may drill the down 0 or A zone dead center, but doesn't get any scoring advantage over someone else who hits the edge of the same zone faster. Watch or shoot an IDPA or USPSA match and see who typically scores better on the longer or more difficult targets.
You can shoot an action match and only concern yourself with accuracy, being very deliberate, but you won't score very well without balancing the accuracy with some speed.
Mark