5 shots in under 1/2 second??

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Winchesters ads for the Super X2 claim that
"During a recent test for Front Sight magazine, the Winchester Super X2 shotgun fired five shells in just over 1/2 of a second - .51 seconds to be exact"
This came up at the local gunshop this morning. While those present that had handled the X2 all agreed that it's a great gun, no one there (even the professional tall-tale tellers) could believe that anyone could pull and release the trigger five times that quickly. Was the test gun one modified for full auto? Winchester blowing smoke?
 
I'd believe it, you certainly can do it with a wheeliegun or semiauto pistol as well.

I've seen a Benelli shotgun demo where they put out all 5 shots before the first shell hit the ground.
 
I've put every shell from my Benelli Super 90 in the air at once... The new Beretta Extreema is even faster... These guns sound like very fast FULL AUTO when fired fast.

NOW... the rest of the deal is... WHO can stay on target and do anything meaningful other than close up home defense with such a rate of fire. It's fun, granted, but it doesn't get the doves.
:D
 
If you do the math on the cyclic rate of fire it is just under 600 rounds per minute, not all that fast compared to other guns. That is just over what the cylic rate of an M60 machine gun is, and the 60 seems pretty slow when firing it. There are people out there that can pull the trigger than fast, without a doubt. It is also possible to bump fire the X2, AMHIK, so that may be how the test was conducted. I have a 3.5" X2, and I do not feel that mine cycles that fast although I have nothing to back that up. The 3" X2 will have a shorter stroke of the bolt, so it could have a significantly faster cyclic rate than mine. As a rule I don't doubt claims like this one openly unless I can disprove them. Sooner or later I will get my hands on a 3" X2 and will bump fire it to get a better idea, and an ordinary shot timer will tell the tale in black and white.
 
Practice²
How bout the gents that break 5 to 8 clays thrown at the same time...
With a pump.

Or the few who will break both birds of a trap house double...
With a single shot gun. Pullbangreloadbang.

Fast AND well aimed shots.

Sam
 
See if you can find a video of a gentleman called Tom Knapp. He does some nice quick work with Benelli shotguns.
 
Sure, can be done, even with a slide-action. Uncle Herb was famous for doing the trick with the M12 for years.

But the questions remains--why? You are responsible for each pellet/buckshot. Other than gun rags and other GSCs who would be irresponsible enough to put unsighted rounds down range?
 
I've seen Knapp, he's fast but 1/2 second? Count aloud: one thousand one. Divide that by two. Still got to see it to believe it, and I want to see it with a gun off the shelf.
 
http://www.winchester-guns.com/sx2_practical.htm

Here is the article they base the ad on. It sounds on the up and up to me. Notice the high marks the a-5 gets, some designs are timeless.
 
If it is possible to bump fire the X2 I see no reason why this isn't doable.

From KSFreeman: "But the questions remains--why? You are responsible for each pellet/buckshot. Other than gun rags and other GSCs who would be irresponsible enough to put unsighted rounds down range?"

KS, don't you guys ever do anything just for FUN? :p I can shoot at rocks 300 yards away with my 1911, don't mean I'll ever do it in real life either. ;) Maybe it is a question of range safety, but then again you could shoot a 155mm atomic canon at my range with no problem. :)

Seriously though, in 3 gunning competitive circles the X2 is getting a really good reputation.
 
KS...
Some folks can hit what they want to while doin "fast n fancy" shootin.

Only unsafe if one is just blowin out ammo everywhichway.

Sam
 
Tom Knapp threw 9 clays into the air at once, by hand, and broke each one with an individual shot from a Benelli M1 before any of them hit the ground. Now that's impressive. Perhaps more impressive, he did the same thing with 8 clays, using a Benelli pump action! :eek:
 
From http://www.winchester-guns.com/sx2_practical.htm

"With the timer running you let loose of five rounds as fast as you can, counting the first shot as zero and totaling the remaining four split intervals. My best to date has been 56 hundredths. David amazed the small gathering at a 3 gun match in Winchester, Idaho by firing those five shots in 51 hundredths! The splits were three .13's and one .12."

Thats some pretty fast trigger pulling...
 
The Benelli guy (or maybe a Beretta - same gun) did a demonstration at our range. He fired about seven shots and hit clay birds that he threw up with his left hand.

Br-a-a-a-a-a-p!
 
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