460 S&W 240grXTP mag vs. 300gr XTP mag?

terrybarb3

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What are your cleanest, closest to factory performing loads? (Non +P). I look at manuals and they vary quite a bit between powder manufacturer & bullet mfg

Just picked up a 8 1/2" S&W 460 and have already prepped my cases. I've got the following, including a Hornady 9th edition manual.
WLR primers
WLRM primers
240gr XTP mag
300gr XTP mag
H110 powder
CPE powder

Do you mind sharing your personal experience with any of the above components and what you liked or didn't like?
 
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My 460 experience

My son has the same barrel length you do and we have been loading for it over a year or so now. We have used exclusively H110 / 296 with the exception of some gallery loads with Trailboss. We have loaded both the 240 and 300 grain XTP bullets as well as 335 and 395 grain WFN-GC from Cast Performance. Loads were out of the current Lyman manual and we settled on loads halfway between the starting and maximum. We got flattened primers at or near the maximum loads using WLRM primers although extraction was normal. The cartridge has enough power that there is no need to push it, so we backed off.

He took it to Alaska on a moose hunt last fall and carried it in a chest holster for bear protection with 395 grain bullets. These LBT style gas-checked lead bullets don't lead the barrel, and will kill game just as well as the more expensive Hornady jacketed. We found out how effective the LBT style bullets are, when his companion on the moose hunt had his rifle malfunction and killed a large bull with his Super Blackhawk 44 magnum with a 300 grain LBT WFN-GC at 15 yards. He shot it twice and it collapsed, then put two more in for insurance. He said the first bullet would have done the job, that it went through the lung and the liver and kept going to the hide on the far side. He's a veterinarian so I believe his assessment is correct.

If a 44 magnum will do that, the 460 will do even more. So if you plan to hunt, I suggest the LBT bullets. They're killers, but not meat wasters. If you just shoot for fun, either type will work. Recoil with all of them is manageable, but the 395 grain loads tend to hurt a little.

If you shoot at the range, give the guys on either side a heads up before you shoot. They're loud and put out a shock wave you can feel. My son's gun has a muzzle brake and that's hard on anyone off to the side.
 
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I use the 240gr XTP exclusively and NO other bullet and no plans to ever use another bullet. And why? Because I got a pretty good deal on 240gr XTP blems and my .460 XVR does two jobs in the whole world -- I love to ring steel plates from 100-300 yards and the gun itself is a tremendous experience for interested folks who have never shot one.
 
elrotundamundo: thanks for your feedback. The LBT is something I haven't even considered yet. I picked the gun from a partial trade I did, and am just amazed at it's substance.
But that also is what prompted me to look into other's experience as it is such a large cartridge that I wanted to be really careful on the reloads. I live quite a ways from the range, so I try to dial my test loads into half a dozen or so before I drive there.

sevens: I didn't know this gun and cartridge had that type of range. Impressive. Also, where were you able to find blemished Hornady bullets if you don't mind me asking?
 
Oh, the .460 has ridiculous range... According to my chrono, the BC that Hornady advertises and my ballistic calculator... the 240gr slug pretty much hits the same (at 500 yards!) as the .45 Hardball does at the muzzle.

The blem bullets I got at a discount were from Midway -- but that was seriously like 3-4 yrs ago.
 
What are your cleanest, closest to factory performing loads? (Non +P).


There is such a thing as a +p in .460? Really?

I've been reloading for my .460 for a decade(since they first came out). I have had very little luck with lead bullets unless Gas Checked for aything over plinking level loads. One you get to Gas Checked bullets, you may as well shoot jacketed. For targets shooting, I use the 240 grainers with H110/W296. For deer hunting, I prefer 300 grainers over IMR4227. The .460 does not have to be hot-rodded to perform well on deer sized game. My P.C. .460 has tight throats and most of my loads are well below max. It does not take a very large increase in powder charge sometimes to go from easy extraction to having to pound the empties out with a dowel. Start low and work up in small increments. If extraction gets sticky, it's time to back down. When loading to the full potential of the .460 use the appropriate bullets as cheaper, thinner jacketed bullets meant for .45 Colt can lead to bullet separation and excessive forcing cone erosion when used @ legitimate .460 pressures and velocities. I've found with H110/W296, the use of Magnum primers leads to more consistent accuracy, probably due to the more consistent ignition. A heavy crimp is also needed, not only to help with ignition, but to keep the bullets from jumping. While IMR4227 does not give me the highest velocities, it does give me the best accuracy in my .460. I assume you meant CFE powder and not CPE powder in your OP. I believe it is a tad fast for legitimate use in your .460. IMR4227 and H110/W296 are all I use anymore for powders. 4227 can be downloaded if need be. Lil' Gun has proved to eat forcing cones and barrels outta .460s, you'll see this if you visit the S&W forums.
 
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