$459 for "used new" S&W 586, too much?

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Hi, I am looking to buy a shotgun and a 357 magnum.
My local dealer has the S&W 586? (stainless) 357 magnum 6" barrel in a used but new condition for $459. Is this too high, he said it looks like an early 90s model.
I also was looking at a Ruger in the same caliber but a 4" barrel for $449 new.
Are these prices too much? I thought the S&W should be $100 less. Thanks
 
Seems high on the 586. I've seen quite a few for under $400.

The 586 should be a blued gun. The stainless is a 686.

The Ruger would normally be a bit less then the Smith.
 
Yes, that's way too much. Check out some of the guns on Gunbroker.com or Auctionarms.com.

The 586 is carbon steel, but nickel plated versions were made.

The 686 is stainless steel.
 
586 is a blued version, 686 is the stainless version. And yes, I agree that it's way too high.

I recently bought a NIB 686 (circa 1985) with wood grips and a 4 inch barrel for 370 off one of the auction sites.
 
Saw a like-new 4" 586 for just a shade over three bills yesterday. Didn't pay too much attention to the price on the 586 as there was a 4" Model 13 next to it that had been round-butted. Only $235, too. Schweet! :D
 
As soon as I figure out the distinguishing characteristics of an early '90s model 686, I'll let you know. If he told you that it was a stainless 586, you need to run to another gunshop. There are some giveaways to an older gun (pinned barrels, recess cylinders, and the number of screws), but I don't think there are any dead giveaways on new guns (short of the new locks). To your question, his price so high I got a nose bleed. He's trying to dump this thing for retail when they didn't even sell new for this. Used in new condition is still used (I don't care if it is unfired with original paperwork).
 
Thanks for the tips everyone. The gun was a 686, I goofed on the #. I will have to do more research on buying one I guess. I will look for the older style since I heard they are better. Just need to see both side by side. I remember the new one had bigger lettering on the side.
 
Look Around

As others note the prices are high. Check the web sites especially Guns America. You do have to factor in shipping and any fees the receiving FFL will charge to get the gun in your hands, though. Some of the auction sites seem to bid prices beyond normal going prices.

The older model of 686 is the 686-4 and lower suffixes. The -5 uses MIM parts and the floating vs. hammer mounted firing pin. The -6 has the internal lock. Depending who you talk to the new model or old model is better. Each has their strong points. Either can be tuned well.

Good hunting.

Jim
 
I gave $439.95 + 8% sales tax for a NIB six shot Smith &
Wesson 686-5, 6" .357 magnum, back in April of 2001. And
so far, it's been a good one; even though it has the frame
mounted firing pin and MIM part's. Go figure-

Added bonus- I did not have to pay for a NCIC background
check.

Best Wishes,
Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member
 
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