brass shower
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Will a Marlin 45ACP camp carbine be able to handle 45 super with an extra power recoil spring? It seen that it would be able to take full advantage of the super's velocity.
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45 super marlin camp carbine
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Daniel Watters
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Given that the Marlin is a straight blowback action and the heaviest recoil spring available is 21lb, I'd say it isn't a good idea. Even factory +P loads tend to batter the stock Marlin.
Daniel Watters
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Wolff Gunsprings ( www.gunsprings.com ) makes replacement Camp Carbine recoil springs in 16lb and 21lb rates. (The factory spring is 11lb.)
In contrast, the 1911 recoil spring starts at 16lb (standard .45 ACP) and goes up into the 30lb range for the Ace Custom .45 Super conversion.
In contrast, the 1911 recoil spring starts at 16lb (standard .45 ACP) and goes up into the 30lb range for the Ace Custom .45 Super conversion.
brass shower
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Does springfield use 30 lb. springs with it's 45super-ready 1911s? I thought it was closer to 20 lb. or so.
This discussion is not complete without considering the weight of the reciprocating parts (bolt, etc. for carbine, slide for t he M1911).
If the camp carbine's bolt is heavier than the M1911's slide, it can "get away with" a lighter recoil spring weight (compression weight). If it's the same, use regular .45 Super spring weights.
If it's lighter, consult a mechanical engineer!
If the camp carbine's bolt is heavier than the M1911's slide, it can "get away with" a lighter recoil spring weight (compression weight). If it's the same, use regular .45 Super spring weights.
If it's lighter, consult a mechanical engineer!
Keith Rogan
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Brass,
You should ask this question down in the gunsmith threads.
If as somebody said, the Camp Carbine is a blowback weapon its just GOT to be a real bad idea to feed supers into it.
A better idea might be to just reload with much slower powders, you'd likely get the same or greater increased velocity by taking advantage of that long barrel but with much lower pressures and much lower odds of eating your slide.
Just my opinion...
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Keith
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You should ask this question down in the gunsmith threads.
If as somebody said, the Camp Carbine is a blowback weapon its just GOT to be a real bad idea to feed supers into it.
A better idea might be to just reload with much slower powders, you'd likely get the same or greater increased velocity by taking advantage of that long barrel but with much lower pressures and much lower odds of eating your slide.
Just my opinion...
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Keith
The Bears and Bear Maulings Page: members.xoom.com/keithrogan
Daniel Watters
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as you note, the original Springfield V-12 .45 Supers did not have springs equal to the Ace Custom ( www.acecustom45.com )conversion. However, the bull barrel and porting probably helped to some degree. Note that Springfield currently offers their .45 Super only in the Long Slide V-16 pistol. The extra mass of the longer barrel and slide should more than make up for the recoil spring rate.