.45 Super, .460 Rowland, or .40 Triton Super?

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Futo Inu

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I was thinking of maybe getting one of these un-needed, high-powered, new-fangled, yet-machismo-pleasing guns, all three of which are supposed to be possible via just a conversion of your .45 acp handgun, using .45 acp mags, which is of course appealing. What I want to know is:

1. Which one has the least amount of chamber pressure, and which will result in the least pounding on your gun, resulting in longer gun life? And what exactly are the standard/accepted chamber pressures of these three rounds, approx?

2. What are the ballistics of each? Triton's website shows some loading data and factory ammo data for the .45 super and .40 super, but does anyone have load data or factory claimed data for the .460 Rowland? Which one of these three is most efficient? Which would blast pins and plates the hardest?

For the factory Triton .40 super ammo, Triton is now claiming
1700 fps for 135 gr
1500 fps for 165 gr
1300 fps for 200 gr

Interesting that there's already factory ammo from Triton and some 6 or 8 barrel-makers making barrels for the .40 super already. Here to stay?

3. What other factors to consider? I think with .45 super, one can use .45 acp reload dies, but not sure. The .40 Super has more bullet choices.

What is THE strongest .45 acp pistol currently made, which will handle the conversion the best?
 
Futo,

I think the best caliber is going to depend upon its intended use. I like the 45 super because it exceeds the 45 ACP +p by 150fps in its hottest loads and still uses the standard 45 ACP barrel. The Roland excells all of the above choices in terms of raw power, but must be chambered specially for it. Other than that, I know nothing about it. The 45 Super seems to be the best round for the widest range of applications since there is very little modifications that must be made to use either ACP or Super. Wish I had the details and specs but its past my bed time. I'll try to check back again w/info if you don't get any by then.

BTW, I believe that any modern, quality 45 w/handle the Super. But I would recommend only using fully supported barrels, regardless of whether the custom smiths are using rampless.

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The .45 Super is the best choice IMO.

Chamber pressures are very low (28,000) for the .45 Super.

You can shoot regular .45 acp for practice, and the gun will never be outdated because you can always get .45 ammo.

The big bullet makes a huge hole and has plenty of velocity.

Most regular .45's can upgrade to the .45 Super with no more than a stronger recoil spring.

You can reload .45 Super with nothing more than a regular .45 reloading setup. All you need is some .45 Super brass and you are good to go. .45 Super brass is nothing more than .45 brass with a thicker web and slightly smaller internal volume (so only use it for loading .45 super, because the powder volumes are different).
 
The box of Triton .40 Super Ammo currently in my possession shows 135gr. @ 1800 fps, for 971 ft/lbs of energy. I expect one of the less-expensive barrel makers to experiment some with .40 Super in the near future. I'll probably get one of their barrels to test. I'll post the results.

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I know you are looking for a semi, but you may want to check out the Dan Wesson model 460. Especially if you'r gonna shoot a lot of those rock-n-roll loads.

Good Luck...

Joe


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