.45 ACP Stopping Power Performance Test....

Airborne

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Ah, the age old stopping power question of this caliber vs. that caliber. Bigger bullet going slowly, or smaller bullet still going slowly, but faster than the bigger slower bullet? Is a .45 really "all that good?"

I had to know the ultimate truth in this matter, or I just knew my life would be in complete turmoil until I did. Answer...? I would conduct my own scientific backyard ballistic experiment. Here's how it went...

Location: My yard

Weapon: Sig 220 .45

Ammo: Federal 230 grain Hydra-shok

Ballistic media: One GI joe action figure with standard issue O.D. Jacket.

One Ken (as in Barbie) smooth boy "who knows what kind of" action figure with pink Izod shirt and a nice yellow turtle neck ensemble.

As you might imagine, they both looked good enough to shoot, although I had to make believe Joe was an informant to the Reno Injustice Department crime ring in order to pull the trigger. He just looked so damn proud.

To make this test as realistic as possible, I pryed off there heads with a screwdriver and filled them both up with Jello brand Gelatin.

Flavor: Strawberry/Banana of course.

I thought that Joe's jacket would most closely represent denim covered ballistic gelatin, while Ken's would be that of bare. (The quality of Ken's clothes was just plain embarassing).

The Test: Ken got his first. 230 Grain Hydra-shok from seven yards dead center mass. I raked up what I could find of him and bagged him up. Next came Joe. Joe's plastic was much tougher, and that little jacket looked pretty darn thick, but I let him have it with the same medicine as Ken. As it turns out, Joe wasn't so tough after all.

I proceded to my make shift laboratory (toolshed) with the remains of my ballistic jello targets for analysis.

The result: Ken was pretty messed up, although I really couldn't find much of him to analyze. In fact, all I could find of poor Joe was part of his head and one of his little black Army boots.

It's safe to say though, (and in the most scientific way that I can) that the .45 ACP 230 Grain Hydra-shok is very effective against jello filled plastic action figures at close range. I couldn't determine if the denim really had much effect on the outcome of this test, but if I had to guess, I would say it didn't do much.

Do I sleep better knowing first hand the amazing "one shot" stopping power of the .45 ACP on plastic encapsulated gelatin...?

Absolutely!
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Regards in fun,
SM
 
There ARE people here who appreciate "sick and twisted". Your test was at leasr as scientific as some. Now if you could find an action figure of a goat...

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Yeah Airborne!

If you took pictures I'm sure that Jan Libourel would be an interested customer. To complete the work you really do need that goat though...
 
What barrel length were these Hydrashoks launched from?

Were the velocities chronographed?

Other than those two questions, I think it would be safe to say this particular load has achieved a 100% OSS rating.

This is good information, keep up the good work!

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Shawn Dodson should be notified!! I'm sure he would provide a spot on his website to share valuble information such as yours...
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Assuming Ken is 12" my calculations to achieve the same effect on a 6' human is a 2.60 caliber 6133 grain bullet. One shot stopping power 2560%.:-)

Shok
 
Before we all jump onto the OSS data bandwagon, lets all remember that "bullet placement is THE most important criteria" when shooting plastic action figures.

For instance, under the stress of the situation, what if Airborne had pulled his shot and simply amputated Joe's hand? Well, we might conclude that he'd still probably be out of commision for a while, but he's still got a 1911 or M-16 in the other. Now to think of it, IF he was simply wounded and not blasted to smithereens, then it would take 4 of Janet's hit men to attend to Joe, thereby forcing 5 men off of the front line if this were a battlefield schenareo.

I'd also like to see what the Sig would do to Teletubbies. Can't think of much good they're for other than target practice and ballistic tests.

robert
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Sometimes we're just to serious about things. I read every word of everyone's posts and had to stifle laughing out loud less someone would ask what I was laughing about.

Seriously now, I wonder how a 185 gr Golden Sabre would have performed against the 230 HS??

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I don't buy the idea of a "magic bullet" that splattered Ken all over the yard. Since statistics show that 90% of all bullets fired in a gunfight miss, there had to have been at least 20 rounds fired to take out both action figures. Are we really supposed to believe that Airborne acted alone? Firing an imported handgun, chambered for an eighty-nine year old cartridge that was declared obsolete by the US military fifteen years ago? Why aren't there any pictures?

I smell a coverup!
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P.S.: Follow the money... See if there's been any corporate collusion between Hasbro and SIG, then check on any insurance policies with Barbie as the beneficiary.
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Ken is a weenie! (Even if he doesn't have one.) I'm glad you shot him. You shot GI Joe????!!! You animal!!!

LMAO
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Thanks for the laugh!

Halffast

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Washington D. C.
President Klinton denounced the sensless destruction of innocent "action figures" today in response to intelligence reports that NRA gun nuts were conducting deadly experiments to develop doll killer bullets. "When is enough, enough?", Klinton asked. The Administration has requested a full investigation by ATF, the Justice Department and Toys R Us.
 
As usual, a bunch of armchair SWAT guys are extolling the virtues of their favorite pistol caliber while completely forgetting that a pistol won't always deliver the mail. Now, a 230 grain Hydra-Shock may be enuff for man against doll, but...you better be talkin' serious rifle caliber (.45-70)when you have to stop a crazed purple dinosaur...Why, once, I had a wounded Barney break cover and charge...yadda, yadda, yadda...
 
Well I've done this test myself with the help of my son. We used toy robats and other action figures. But we really did not record the data. The test was conducted out in the woods, and I could not find enough debris to do the weight measurements.
Two Questions:
1) Did the Hydra-shok get good penetration? 2) Did the JHP expand through the heavy clothing?
I'm sure Marshall& Sanow will wnat the results. Mas Auoob will certainly be interested also.

I would also have to agree that the test should be conducted with a 5.56mm AR. That would also make a good comparison for Chuck Taylor.

Great Job!!
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