45 acp discolored cases

ncrypt

New member
Hey guys, I'm wondering if these cases are getting discolored because of a low powder charge? I'm guessing the case isn't expanding enough?

It's pretty consistent with most all my cases.

I use 5.0 grains of BullsEye behind a 230 grain FMJ.

i-RjdmMMt.jpg


thanks for your help
 
I do not know, I do not know when the cases took on the appearance of having been neglected.

I acquired cases I paid one cent each for, that would be 1,400 cases for $14.00 dollars because no one wanted to clean them up, everyone that looked at the cases at the Buckhorn Flea Market in North Carolina thought the cases would take a month of tumbling. I cleaned them in vinegar, it took me 15 minutes and then I had to wash them in very hot water, twice.

After that I tumbled them for about an hour. Then there were the dirt daubers, every case had its own dirt dauber. I allowed the bugs to hatch, I do not know if we had that particular insect in this part of the country but:eek:, we have them now. There was no down side, the black dirt dauber eats spiders.

F. Guffey
 
Last edited:
I'm guessing the case isn't expanding enough?

Probably.

45 ACP tends to have case blow-back. 'bout a month ago, I shot several boxes of Winchester White Box 230 RN factory ammo through my new 1911 to break it in, and the cases all had a bunch of blow-back. And the good ol' WWB "ball ammo" is not weak. It's middle of the road and I rather consider it the "baseline" ammo for 45 ACP. If I had to guess, it runs at nominal velocities/pressures (if there's such a thing as "nominal" in this realm).

My target rounds do the same.

45 ACP is a low pressure cartridge; and as such, a certain amount of case blow-back is to be expected.
 
Again, I do not know. But when my cases do not seal the pressure around the outside of the case is greater than the pressure inside of the case when the pressure inside the case drops. I do not know how you clean your cases. reloaders are including every method and technique available to clean cases 'now days;)', I am not convinced all the different methods are good for the cases.

F. Guffey
 
Then there were the dirt daubers, every case had its own dirt dauber. I allowed the bugs to hatch,
You mean wasp nests in your brass cases? really?
I bet you took pictures of that,the "bugs" actually layer mud in tubes and stash
spiders in them,I know because I got them right on my back door and I never heard of them using brass cases,only comes to show there is something new under the sun.
 
Don't know if this is any help, but I load .45acp to USPSA major, 200 grain bullets to at least 850 f/s and never get dirty brass.
Barely have to even clean them before reloading again.
And they require some effort to resize so they must be expanding when fired.
No resident wasps, either.
They're all living in the garage rafters.
 
Isn't a low charge. 5.0 of Bullseye is the max load for a jacketed 230.
The black looks more like it comes from a Sharpie marker than soot. Straight lines aren't normal.
Either way it's nothing to worry about. You have to clean 'em anyway.
 
You mean wasp nests in your brass cases? really?

Polyphemus. I was told by a smith in Hawaii it could be worst, he said I had 30 caliber wasp. He said in Hawaii they had 25 caliber wasp. I did ask why 25 cal. was worst than 30 cal. He said he did not dare leave any hole uncovered.

F. Guffey

when the wasp left they all left together, unfortunately they decided to leave when my wife opened the garage door. it liked like a small black cloud.
 
Did you laugh like a maniac while watching your wife dancing around dodging wasps. :eek: :D

OP, don't worry about that little soot, it's Bulls eye after all...:cool:
 
I've been getting scorched and sooty case in my 45 loads as well . My issue I believe has been to slow a powder for the weight of bullet . How ever bullseye seems to be pretty quick like titegroup . Not sure why your cases are not sealing the chamber .
 
However bullseye seems to be pretty quick like titegroup.

Bullseye has a much faster burn rate than TiteGroup. Relatively speaking. I mean, they both fall into the "fast" pistol powder category - so they're roughly the same. Very roughly. They are on opposite ends within that category.

I bought four #'s of TG a few months back and have been testing it extensively (and posted about it here on TFL). It's the slowest "fast" powder I've ever used. As I put in one of my posts, if TG were any slower, I'd categorize it as an intermediate burn rate powder.
 
Back
Top