45 ACP/460 Rowland cheers

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e'ville

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There has been some discussion about beefed up 45 ACP cartridges. For those with S&W 625's the Rowland conversion makes great sense and I have two converted revolvers myself. The conversion is quick, fairly cheap and practically invisible. Once it's done the gun will shoot 45 ACP, 45 Super and 460 Rowlands without making any changes in it when switching rounds. The revolver is built to handle the pressures (N frames shoot 44 mags all day long). Reloading the Rowland requires no additional equipment to that which 45 ACP's need except the brass.

The Rowland ammo I just got from Triton sends a 165 grain bullet at 1750 fps. The usual rounds I reload are 230 grain hardball at 1200 fps. They can be made much hotter or milder.

I do hope the Rowland doesn't fade away. It makes a lot of sense for revolver shooters.


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Mark
 
The conversion consists of lengthening the charge holes a few millimeters to allow the Rowland cartridge entry. The conversion costs $99 and does not prevent the use of the 45 ACP with moon clips. You can read more about it at http://www.clarkcustomguns.com/revserv.htm#rowland

As long as you're sending the gun in, I'd suggest an action job also. They do great work at a very good price.

Also, it seems much cheaper to ship by FedEx. It costs me about $10 for a 2 day shipment.

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Mark
 
Isn't the Rowland pretty much a rehash of the .451 Detonics Magnum? For those of you thinking, "What the heck is a .451 Detonics Magnum?"; I think you've answered the question of whether or not the Rowland will be a success. I read somewhere that the 625 was not suitable for .45 Super use, but you're using the Rowland with no problem? The cylinder walls of the 25/625 are much thinner than those of the 29/629, and that's why hotrodding the 25 has always been discouraged.
 
The wall thickness of the cylinder should be the same as for the 45 LC. I have two 625's in that caliber. Both have handled hot loads without problems. The pressures of the Rowland should not exceed those of a fairly hot 45 LC.

Anyway, I can't imagine routinely shooting hot Rowlands day after day. I shoot a 454 also. If I shot that regularly I would worry about me cracking before the cylinder. The Rowland in a hot round is best used sparingly whereas the moderate rounds are quite comfortable.

If you want to know the safety data and wear factor on the gun, Clark Custom Guns did the research. I'm sure they'd give it to you.

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Mark
 
You guys with all this conversion crap is going to get us all in trouble! Just imagine, one gun that does everything. What type of world would that be. Just think for a moment if our wives found out that a guy only needs one gun. Ditch this post! :)

Robert
 
The 460 makes a lot of sense to me. Mind you, I've never shot it in a revolver - only the 1911 platform.

The recoil on the 1911 frame is very muchso lighter than any equivalent loadings in any .44 mag revolvers I've shot. Follow-up shots are much quicker.

3X catridges - same mag, same pistol/revolver. Everything from reg ol' 45ACP to 44 mag capabilities ... I don't see any real downsides to it.

BTW, the compensator system employed on the 1911 fram (+ the thicker brass of the 460) allows the higher pressures w/in eazy safety limits.

The 1911 is a much better platform than I think even Browning himself knew.
 
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