45/70 revolver
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No, but they have one for rent at the local range. Apparently, no one who has rented it has shot an entire cylinder yet. That may be due less to something inherently problematic with the BFR than the nature of the folks I see renting that type of thing: big on bravado and low on skill and experience.
And, does anyone REALLY think BFR = Biggest, Finest Revolver instead of = Big F-ing Revolver??
And, does anyone REALLY think BFR = Biggest, Finest Revolver instead of = Big F-ing Revolver??
These revolvers weigh 4.5 lb. empty. They are suprisingly easy on the shooter. Factory 300 and 405 gr. loads aren't a problem at all. My everyday plinking load is 36 gr. of 3031 and a 405 cast. My S&W 57 was harder on the hands with the factory grips. Shoot one and you will be surprised.
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You mean "Maxine" Thats what they call the 45-70 Govt. model.
Ive actually got to shoot one a couple of times now.
Very Very nice gun. Take away the fact that your shooting a bullet as long and big around as your finger and its still an amazing gun. Mechanicals are great...lock up and trigger.
The first time you see the 4+ inch cylinder...you say "OH SH*T!"
I shoot Casulls and 50's quite often with reloads that are loaded from a typical factory load to EVIL status. The BFR I shot was with 425 gr 'HOT RELOADS" in it.
Before I shot it, I watched my 230# dad get rocked back onto his heels with his first shot ....."Hmmmmm...self, are you sure you want to do this?"
Sure why not. It wasnt that bad in the recoil dept.....much like a very stout Casull with more straight back push....
If you get the chance...shoot one. Shoot well
Ive actually got to shoot one a couple of times now.
Very Very nice gun. Take away the fact that your shooting a bullet as long and big around as your finger and its still an amazing gun. Mechanicals are great...lock up and trigger.
The first time you see the 4+ inch cylinder...you say "OH SH*T!"
I shoot Casulls and 50's quite often with reloads that are loaded from a typical factory load to EVIL status. The BFR I shot was with 425 gr 'HOT RELOADS" in it.
Before I shot it, I watched my 230# dad get rocked back onto his heels with his first shot ....."Hmmmmm...self, are you sure you want to do this?"
Sure why not. It wasnt that bad in the recoil dept.....much like a very stout Casull with more straight back push....If you get the chance...shoot one. Shoot well
moredes,
I know this is the Revolver forum and you asked about the 444 and the 45/70 in the BFR but ballistics will be similiar if not a bit less than what I shot in my Contenders with the same calibers so I'm adding my 2 cents worth hoping to pass along a bit of info.
I've had both 444 and 45/70's in Contenders and both drop like rocks from the sky at the distances you mentioned but if and when you find the correct holdover they will shoot remarkable well at extreme distances but there are much better handgun rounds suited for 500 - 600 yards in Encores, XP's and other single shots.
My 444 was a rechambered 10" 44 mag barrel and with stiff loaded 320 gr. cast it was hard to keep the forend on it and then it was quite a handfull. It really moved around before it zoomed by the side of your head quicker than you could blink. It planted the front sight in a few foreheads. The 45/70 was actually a pleasant shooting gun but with the 550 cast it moved around a bit. Both are really pleasant and quite accurate when loaded with a more moderate load. If you wanna try a big one, try the 50 Alaskan in the Encore by SSK.... It shoots a 750 gr, 50 caliber bullet out of a blown out 348 Winchester case... really impressive and super accurate out to 600 yards. JD had it out West demonstrating to a military group and it was sighted in at 600 yards. They were hitting what they were aiming at ......
Here's a pic..
I know this is the Revolver forum and you asked about the 444 and the 45/70 in the BFR but ballistics will be similiar if not a bit less than what I shot in my Contenders with the same calibers so I'm adding my 2 cents worth hoping to pass along a bit of info.
I've had both 444 and 45/70's in Contenders and both drop like rocks from the sky at the distances you mentioned but if and when you find the correct holdover they will shoot remarkable well at extreme distances but there are much better handgun rounds suited for 500 - 600 yards in Encores, XP's and other single shots.
My 444 was a rechambered 10" 44 mag barrel and with stiff loaded 320 gr. cast it was hard to keep the forend on it and then it was quite a handfull. It really moved around before it zoomed by the side of your head quicker than you could blink. It planted the front sight in a few foreheads. The 45/70 was actually a pleasant shooting gun but with the 550 cast it moved around a bit. Both are really pleasant and quite accurate when loaded with a more moderate load. If you wanna try a big one, try the 50 Alaskan in the Encore by SSK.... It shoots a 750 gr, 50 caliber bullet out of a blown out 348 Winchester case... really impressive and super accurate out to 600 yards. JD had it out West demonstrating to a military group and it was sighted in at 600 yards. They were hitting what they were aiming at ......
Here's a pic..
Thanks very much, Topstrap, for your detailed response. I had a real good time with the BFR in 444; we were shooting at steel at about 550 yards I think. The experience got me to thinkin' about a long range pistol to shoot while the rifle cools down. I was toying with either a BFR in 444 or 45-70, or the Lone Eagle or Rem XP 100 in .308. At least that would save me from retooling, etc.
What you said abou more ideal handgun calibers makes a lot of sense. I think I'm leaning towards a .308 Win handgun.
What you said abou more ideal handgun calibers makes a lot of sense. I think I'm leaning towards a .308 Win handgun.
Here's one...
No one mentioned the Thunder Five.
It comes with a 45 LC/410ga cylinder, but you can accessorize to a 45/70 cylinder.
I fired a buddy's with 300gr 45/70 factory. Less than a 454 Casull SRH! Probably because almost all of its 4-lb weight is out front.
Here's a picture and link: http://www.thunder5.com/docs1.html
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No one mentioned the Thunder Five.
It comes with a 45 LC/410ga cylinder, but you can accessorize to a 45/70 cylinder.
I fired a buddy's with 300gr 45/70 factory. Less than a 454 Casull SRH! Probably because almost all of its 4-lb weight is out front.
Here's a picture and link: http://www.thunder5.com/docs1.html
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Back in the late 80's someboody came out with a single action 45/70 revolver. I was called The Alaskan. It was suppose to be for EMEGENCY USE on Brown and white bears in Alaska. Shotgun News never carried them. I guess it was as much of a white elephant as the 4 inch 45/70 deranger.