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.44 shot shells
- Thread starter saudst
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Speer 13th Loading Manual:
44 Magnum Shotshell Reloading Data with Win 231 powder only
--Use 7 1/2, 8, or 9 shot
--Win 231---7.3 grains-----1133 fps in a 6" barrel
--Use standard primers not magnum
--overall length of loaded round with capsule 1.600"
Apply a very light crimp just enough to keep the capsule from moving. To much crimp and you'll crack the plastic capsule. I highly recommend to not fire a full power 44 magnum load with shot capsules in another chamber. The recoil can easily cause the capsules to slide forward in the case and lock up the cylinder. Pattern is approximately 1" per foot, 6 feet and a 6" pattern for example. I load 7 1/2 shot with good patterns. Not recommended to reduce or raise powder charges with Speer's shotshell capsules. Now for 44 Special cases with Win 231 the charge weight recommended is 6.3 grains for 1045 fps in a 4" barrel. Overall length for 44 Special cases with shot capsules is the same for both Magnum and Special at 1.600".
44 Magnum Shotshell Reloading Data with Win 231 powder only
--Use 7 1/2, 8, or 9 shot
--Win 231---7.3 grains-----1133 fps in a 6" barrel
--Use standard primers not magnum
--overall length of loaded round with capsule 1.600"
Apply a very light crimp just enough to keep the capsule from moving. To much crimp and you'll crack the plastic capsule. I highly recommend to not fire a full power 44 magnum load with shot capsules in another chamber. The recoil can easily cause the capsules to slide forward in the case and lock up the cylinder. Pattern is approximately 1" per foot, 6 feet and a 6" pattern for example. I load 7 1/2 shot with good patterns. Not recommended to reduce or raise powder charges with Speer's shotshell capsules. Now for 44 Special cases with Win 231 the charge weight recommended is 6.3 grains for 1045 fps in a 4" barrel. Overall length for 44 Special cases with shot capsules is the same for both Magnum and Special at 1.600".
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hounddogman
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I've been interested in doing this. Where did you find the capsules is there a wad or paper that go's between the powder and capsule?
There are some good recipes out there for not using the plastic capsule. I tried the capsules, they're too finicky for me. Card over powder, then shot straight into the case, then card over the shot.
I've had great luck with .38 using titegroup, card over powder, 90 ish grains of 9 shot, card over shot, then a dab of elmers glue smeared around in there. Good enough pattern for what I need, but not sure what your intended use is.
I've had great luck with .38 using titegroup, card over powder, 90 ish grains of 9 shot, card over shot, then a dab of elmers glue smeared around in there. Good enough pattern for what I need, but not sure what your intended use is.
FrankenMauser
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Most well-stocked reloading suppliers will have the capsules (if available at the time - they're a bit 'seasonal'). If you can't find them locally, most of the big online retailers stock them (again, ...when available).I've been interested in doing this. Where did you find the capsules is there a wad or paper that go's between the powder and capsule?
The capsules are made up of a frangible plastic cup to hold the shot, and a plug to close it off and act as a gas seal. No additional wads are needed.
Google "Speer shot capsules", click the 'images' tab, and you should see dozens of pictures of the capsules.
hounddogman
New member
Thank you
I can pop rats and ground squirrels to 15' easily with my loads in .357 and .44 mag...
No shot capsules needed, and I use a mix of #6 and #8 shot taken from cutting open 'promo' loads from the major manufacturers...Two 12ga shells will make up quite a few rounds of handgun ammo...
I use the techniques found here:
http://www.castbullet.com/reload/44shot.htm
I tried the capsules and loads on the Speer cartons years ago...My loads without capsules have given me what I consider better center patterns, and less 'doughnut' shape...
I use lower powder charges than the Speer data, and believe that the slower velocity and no capsule impart less spin to the shot charge...
No shot capsules needed, and I use a mix of #6 and #8 shot taken from cutting open 'promo' loads from the major manufacturers...Two 12ga shells will make up quite a few rounds of handgun ammo...
I use the techniques found here:
http://www.castbullet.com/reload/44shot.htm
I tried the capsules and loads on the Speer cartons years ago...My loads without capsules have given me what I consider better center patterns, and less 'doughnut' shape...
I use lower powder charges than the Speer data, and believe that the slower velocity and no capsule impart less spin to the shot charge...
Speer shotshells
Thanks all, I like to have the first 2 chambers loaded with these and 9 shot in areas where copperheads may be. I gave my Speer manual to someone just getting into reloading not thinking about needing this info later. Thanks, I wrote it in one of my other manuals so I have it in the future as well. Tim.
Thanks all, I like to have the first 2 chambers loaded with these and 9 shot in areas where copperheads may be. I gave my Speer manual to someone just getting into reloading not thinking about needing this info later. Thanks, I wrote it in one of my other manuals so I have it in the future as well. Tim.