410 saiga (good or not?)
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When I first got my Saiga in 12 Guage, it didn'nt work well at all, single shot was the best it would do, took it back to the dealer to see what he could do with it. He sent it back to I have no idea where, but it was back in two weeks, they put a weaker spring in it, works great now, it's alot of fun blasting away, but I wouldnt advise it as a primary HD unit, just too darn long and cumbersome for that application...................stegmaier
Bubbaman, as a HD gun, the 410 Saiga has two strikes against it from the get-go, and they apply to any .410-bore autoloader.
Strike One is the size, most folks prefer a gauge larger than a .410-bore in a HD gun. Yeah, I know, you hear a lot about the new special .410 HD loads; but, they are intended for the Judge revolver. A .410 is a pretty hot handgun load, but it's lightweight shotgun load. Most would select a 12-ga for HD with the 20-ga a distant second choice.
Strike Two is the action type, most folks want a very reliable gun for HD, and prefer a pump action over an autoloaders. I don't know why, a pump is just as likely to be finicky about ammo as an auto. I've read several recent threads about Remington 870 Express models having extraction problems, not so with the Remington 1100 auto.
Most competitors, myself included, don't use an autoloader for match work because they've lost too many targets due to autoloader FTFs. They prefer the O/U -- drop one (or two) in, and if the action closes smoothly the probability of the gun shooting is awesomely high. Yes, there can be occasional trouble with the selection mechanism in a single trigger O/U -- selecting a double trigger HD gun eliminates that possibility. That's why some prefer a coach gun for HD -- they select reliability over a pump's larger magazine capacity. (Some shooters, well trained with a double gun, can get off 4-shots very quickly.)
If you hear something go bump in the night and your choice is between a 410 Saiga and no gun, it's a no brainer. However, given a choice, it wouldn't be my go-to gun for HD.
Strike One is the size, most folks prefer a gauge larger than a .410-bore in a HD gun. Yeah, I know, you hear a lot about the new special .410 HD loads; but, they are intended for the Judge revolver. A .410 is a pretty hot handgun load, but it's lightweight shotgun load. Most would select a 12-ga for HD with the 20-ga a distant second choice.
Strike Two is the action type, most folks want a very reliable gun for HD, and prefer a pump action over an autoloaders. I don't know why, a pump is just as likely to be finicky about ammo as an auto. I've read several recent threads about Remington 870 Express models having extraction problems, not so with the Remington 1100 auto.
Most competitors, myself included, don't use an autoloader for match work because they've lost too many targets due to autoloader FTFs. They prefer the O/U -- drop one (or two) in, and if the action closes smoothly the probability of the gun shooting is awesomely high. Yes, there can be occasional trouble with the selection mechanism in a single trigger O/U -- selecting a double trigger HD gun eliminates that possibility. That's why some prefer a coach gun for HD -- they select reliability over a pump's larger magazine capacity. (Some shooters, well trained with a double gun, can get off 4-shots very quickly.)
If you hear something go bump in the night and your choice is between a 410 Saiga and no gun, it's a no brainer. However, given a choice, it wouldn't be my go-to gun for HD.
Brent,
Pushing it to the extreme, midwayusa.com has Winchester .410-bore 3-inch 000 Buckshot for $7.19 per box of 5. That works out to 35.95 per box of 25 -- forget the 100-count bargain box -- for $36 you can get 4 boxes (of 25) Winchester AA or Remington Premier STS loads and have nice re-loadable hulls! It's crazy.
Pushing it to the extreme, midwayusa.com has Winchester .410-bore 3-inch 000 Buckshot for $7.19 per box of 5. That works out to 35.95 per box of 25 -- forget the 100-count bargain box -- for $36 you can get 4 boxes (of 25) Winchester AA or Remington Premier STS loads and have nice re-loadable hulls! It's crazy.
markj,
I love the .410-bore for Skeet. Like the majority of regular .410 shooters, most of the time I shoot reloads. I shoot 'em 'till the burnt crimps cry for mercy. Needless to say, by then there's probably no way they would function in an autolader or pump gun. In my vault, the shell boxes with the big black "X" on them are the "last time" loads -- they aren't fit to be seen by women, children nor squeamish shooters.
I love the .410-bore for Skeet. Like the majority of regular .410 shooters, most of the time I shoot reloads. I shoot 'em 'till the burnt crimps cry for mercy. Needless to say, by then there's probably no way they would function in an autolader or pump gun. In my vault, the shell boxes with the big black "X" on them are the "last time" loads -- they aren't fit to be seen by women, children nor squeamish shooters.
nefprotector
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I had one. Got rid of it due to jamming problems. Buy yourself a good Mossberg, Remington, or even an NEF protector etc. Good luck!
I had a hard time hitting the targets but my younger brother dusted each one using the 2.5s with .5 oz of lead. He is good like our Dad used to be.
When I was 12 I had a pheas fly right to me, I shot him with a 410 3in, he just flew away. Had feathers every where,
went to a 12 and have had no problems.I get a huge sense of gratification seeing my son shoot, only wish I had him 30 years ago
he missed a lot of good hunting hardworker
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The biggest problem with 410 is cost of ammo. 410 000 buck is nothing to sneeze at but will run your wallet dry.
bamaranger
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ultimate bunny blaster
Always thought the .410 Saiga would be the ultimate rabbit gun. Probably scare the daylights out of my beagles though , who are pretty sensitive about anybody hunting w/ an assault style weapon.
Always thought the .410 Saiga would be the ultimate rabbit gun. Probably scare the daylights out of my beagles though , who are pretty sensitive about anybody hunting w/ an assault style weapon.