410 hand gun ammo???

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Prof Young

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I recall seeing that CCI is making 410 ammo specifically for handguns. I imagine they are thinking of the The Judge made by Taurus. Any one tried it?? I have a Super Commanche that chambers 45LC and 410. Am thinking I should try the new CCI ammo.

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Prof Young
 
Sorry, I havent tried it but Im just here to say why NOT try it? Just buy a box or two, if you dont like it then dont buy it again.

The Judge looks like a very nice revolver, especially the 6'' barrel. I wish my range rented one so I could shoot it!
 
A lot of people on TFL tend to discredit the Taurus Judge, but I can't imagine a better gun to stick in a small of the back holster when working around the house/farm to take care of snakes and such. Yeah, you could do it with your regular ol' 9mm/.40/.45/etc, but methinks the .410 would tip the odds scale in your favor.
 
Wonder how they get around the sawed off shotgun type laws?

Remember my grandmother had a JC Higgins 410 handgun listed in her auction (DANG THAT WAS A FUN GUN) and the BATF was there to collect it as an illegal shotgun. Was about a foot long total with nice wood grips etc.
 
Wonder how they get around the sawed off shotgun type laws?
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By building it with a rifled barrel. :) Since it's not a smoothbore, it's not legally considered a shotgun. It's just like loading commercial pistol-caliber shot loads into a conventional handgun.
 
I just bought a box of 20 Federal personal defense shells in 000 buck. Haven't tried them yet. On the Judge it's important to stick to premium American made shotshells (don't use RIO or S&B).
 
Just wondering - how does a 410 shotgun round fired out of a hand gun do in a self-defense situation against a man-sized target?
 
I shoot regular .410 shells out of the Judge. I love it.

I primarily use it for when I am working in the barns. I hate snakes and they seem to love my stacked hay. But just shooting it is a blast (No pun intended). It is loud and it hits the target.

I think as a personal defense weapon that I carried all the time, I would chose the .45. But if you are going to use it in the house, I do not see what is wrong with the .410.

Most bad guys are cowards and the noise alone should send them scurrying out the nearest window. If you are the type that has armed bad guys looking for you, as opposed to the bad guy who is just armed, you might want something else.

Have fun and enjoy.
 
I had a bond 45/410
the S&B 000 has a thinner casing that tends to curve after fired, and not want to extract..

Saw a fellow at the range with a judge, shooting rio, the extractors would not work, I lent him a wood dowel to extract cases with, and the primers would push out of the case..

Told him about the S&B ammo and the case construction and what I had noticed in the bond..

he's going to be shooting smooth cased shot, like win AA or such and not using the bargain brand..
 
Brand X --- The RIO and S&B shells seem to be "swollen" and can be very hard to chamber. After firing, the bases and the tubes swell up and they can be a bear to extract. I've never used these brands in a .410 long gun. I switched over to Remington STS and Winchester AA for my shot loads and haven't a problem since. I'm placing great hopes on the Federal 000 when I get a chance to shoot them.
 
A bought a Snake Slayer iv for the sole purpose of having a pistol that can shoot .410 shotshells. The reason being, that here in Canada you can't get pistol ammo in regular retail stores such as Wallmart (except for.22). Pistol ammo is usually only available in gun stores.
I live in an area with no gun stores. Therefore, when i'm too busy to reload i now can drive down to a local hardware store to pick up .410's. I just bought a pack of Winchesters with the high strength hull. I'll give them a try on the weekend. I'm wondering about the ballistics myself (seeing that they were meant for a full length shotgun) in my 4" Snake Slayer. I bet that .410 pistol ammo has a faster burning powder. I haven't seen any of this ammo yet and would like to see some chronograph results.
 
I have been loading 3" .410 shells with #2 lead and BB to enhance the penetration potential for home/vehicle defense purposes. Granted, off the shelf #4 loads at contact distance will make a serious crater in the body of the BoogeyMan, but leave a lot to be desired at "normal" defense range of what, maybe 5 yards or so, especially if you factor in heavier clothing.

Not many can hand roll .410 shells, so here is another choice that I was just made aware of recently:

http://www.paraklesetechnologies.com/products.asp?cat=13

Obviously .45 Colt in most any configuration is potent medicine, but .410 slugs are anemic in any firearm, long or short barrel.

Best performance in shotshells is for sure to use the smooth hulled stuff like Winchester. There is a lot of bad reports using the imported/surplus stuff.
 
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