bamaranger
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Have we kicked this around yet............?
There is a new cartridge about to be released, the Win .400 Legend, another straight wall number aimed at the states that require same for deer, and of course it will feed and function in a standard AR action to boot.
First off, who names these things? The "Legend" (both flavors) and the rival .360 Buckhammer? Too juvenile for me, I'd much preferred the .405 Auto or the older labels, the .405 SLR. And .360 Remington would have suited me fine as well. The hype claims that the Legend is one of Winchesters best sellers (this being the .350 version). Well, not around here, perhaps elsewhere required by straight case law. Back in 2019 (I searched) a post ran about the .350 Legend and I commented about the gap in cartridge design and no .40 cal............ seems like now we have it. Ballisticaly an improved version of the old Win 401 SLR, much like the .350 runs on the heels of the .35 Rem and betters the old .351 SLR.
With the continued interest in stretching the reach of the AR and long range shooting in general, as well as the overall decline in the interest of hunting, I do not see the Legend family flourishing. One application that comes to mind is Jeff Coopers "Thumper" concept. Cooper wanted essentially an improved, even more compact M1 carbine .....forerunner to the PDW weapons of today. There were attempts to do so by hot rodding the M1 carbine to .45 Win Mag. The .44 Auto mag cartridge was another possible choice. The MP5 Kurtz went the other direction with the 9mm, and the FBI had the MP5 in 10MM for a while. I don't know what the new .400 Legend would do with a very short barrel, but a Commando/XM177 size .400 Legend, with modern materials to lighten it as much as possible might be the Thumper reborn.
There is a new cartridge about to be released, the Win .400 Legend, another straight wall number aimed at the states that require same for deer, and of course it will feed and function in a standard AR action to boot.
First off, who names these things? The "Legend" (both flavors) and the rival .360 Buckhammer? Too juvenile for me, I'd much preferred the .405 Auto or the older labels, the .405 SLR. And .360 Remington would have suited me fine as well. The hype claims that the Legend is one of Winchesters best sellers (this being the .350 version). Well, not around here, perhaps elsewhere required by straight case law. Back in 2019 (I searched) a post ran about the .350 Legend and I commented about the gap in cartridge design and no .40 cal............ seems like now we have it. Ballisticaly an improved version of the old Win 401 SLR, much like the .350 runs on the heels of the .35 Rem and betters the old .351 SLR.
With the continued interest in stretching the reach of the AR and long range shooting in general, as well as the overall decline in the interest of hunting, I do not see the Legend family flourishing. One application that comes to mind is Jeff Coopers "Thumper" concept. Cooper wanted essentially an improved, even more compact M1 carbine .....forerunner to the PDW weapons of today. There were attempts to do so by hot rodding the M1 carbine to .45 Win Mag. The .44 Auto mag cartridge was another possible choice. The MP5 Kurtz went the other direction with the 9mm, and the FBI had the MP5 in 10MM for a while. I don't know what the new .400 Legend would do with a very short barrel, but a Commando/XM177 size .400 Legend, with modern materials to lighten it as much as possible might be the Thumper reborn.