40/65, 45/70, /45/110 Sharps recoil
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It's been a long time since I shot a 7 mag and have never fired a 40-65 or 45-110. I did own a 45-70 trapdoor for a number of years and the recoil with a 405 gr. bullet with a full case of bp is akin to a 12 gauge with smokeless and no recoil pad. I would think the 45-110 would be a mite sharper and the 40-65 about the same.
Jim Watson
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I don't have a 7mm magnum, but I doubt a .30-06 loaded for 1000 yards is much different. A .40-65 in a typical BPCR has recoil comparable to my old M70 HB; a .45-70 has more recoil but most shooters find them manageable for a match.
I don't want to get acquainted with a .45-110. A lot of owners load them with Fg to moderate the kick.
Me?
I shoot a .38-55 and would consider a .40 for my next BPCR.
A standard T3 sporter will weigh less but have a better shaped stock than most BPCRs, you'd just have to take that into account.
If you are contemplating buying such a rifle, surely you know a place where they are being shot and can get acquainted and be invited to try some out.
I don't want to get acquainted with a .45-110. A lot of owners load them with Fg to moderate the kick.
Me?
I shoot a .38-55 and would consider a .40 for my next BPCR.
A standard T3 sporter will weigh less but have a better shaped stock than most BPCRs, you'd just have to take that into account.
If you are contemplating buying such a rifle, surely you know a place where they are being shot and can get acquainted and be invited to try some out.
robhof
A gentleman that goes to the same range that I go to is a master gunsmith and he allowed me to shoot his 50 90 and a 45 90 that was a 50 90 necked to 45. He was usind smokless powder and reduced loads. They weren't as bad as my ultralight 12 ga. with 3 1/2 shells, but they had a good kick. The 50 90 is a sharps style with the best case hardening I've ever seen and he built the stock and forearm from burl and it's almost too nice to shoot, but he's there almost every Monday shooting that beauty or one of his other creations.
A gentleman that goes to the same range that I go to is a master gunsmith and he allowed me to shoot his 50 90 and a 45 90 that was a 50 90 necked to 45. He was usind smokless powder and reduced loads. They weren't as bad as my ultralight 12 ga. with 3 1/2 shells, but they had a good kick. The 50 90 is a sharps style with the best case hardening I've ever seen and he built the stock and forearm from burl and it's almost too nice to shoot, but he's there almost every Monday shooting that beauty or one of his other creations.
sundance44s
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The heavy bullet weight is what will kick yer butt ...When I first started loading B/P 45/70 ..bought the gun for a hog hunt ...loaded 65 grs of goex 3f under a 405 gr bullet .......didn`t have the gun butt tight against my shoulder , touched off a sight in round ..Well it hit me so hard all I can say is it put tears in my eyes , and I packed up and went home ..hopeing to return to fight another day .
sundance44s
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Yep old Wuss 
........well I could have said it was the smoke that put the tears in me eyes ....I ain`t turning in my man card over it eaither !
Hey Black powder is suppose to gently rock on recoil ...thats Bull ..hit ..who ever said that never shot a 45/70 full of the holy black .
........well I could have said it was the smoke that put the tears in me eyes ....I ain`t turning in my man card over it eaither ! Hey Black powder is suppose to gently rock on recoil ...thats Bull ..hit ..who ever said that never shot a 45/70 full of the holy black .
Jim Watson
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+1
I have not yet found one of those big bores that recoils in a "slow push."
But I have quit looking very hard.
I have not yet found one of those big bores that recoils in a "slow push."
But I have quit looking very hard.
Mike Irwin
Staff
The .40-65 is, to my way of thinking, an extremely gentle cartridge no matter what you put in it.
The .45-70, especially with 500 grain bullets, is starting to get kind of stout.
I found the .45-110 to be rather unpleasant after about 5 rounds.
The .45-70, especially with 500 grain bullets, is starting to get kind of stout.
I found the .45-110 to be rather unpleasant after about 5 rounds.
Comparison
Your question is a tough one to answer. One main reason is because the Sharp's is available in so many different configurations. Mine has a 32 inch barrel and weighs close to 13 pounds. I push a 405 grain bullet at 1600 fps. This is considered a fairly heavy load, but not "magnum" proportions. Any of your caliber choices is a "***** cat" in this rifle with its heft. Tom.
Your question is a tough one to answer. One main reason is because the Sharp's is available in so many different configurations. Mine has a 32 inch barrel and weighs close to 13 pounds. I push a 405 grain bullet at 1600 fps. This is considered a fairly heavy load, but not "magnum" proportions. Any of your caliber choices is a "***** cat" in this rifle with its heft. Tom.
I used to shoot 28 grains of Accurate 5744 under a 405 grain bullet out of my Sharps, and it was a pussycat. I could shoot it all day.
Now I'm shooting 60 grains of Swiss 1.5 with a 500 grain bullet, and I definitely notice the recoil. It's not bad standing, but shooting prone kinda smarts.
Now I'm shooting 60 grains of Swiss 1.5 with a 500 grain bullet, and I definitely notice the recoil. It's not bad standing, but shooting prone kinda smarts.