3913 vs Kahr k9
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VictorLouis
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I've had two of the 3913 series. They'll hold one more round than the Kahr. The Kahrs I have are more accurate overall than the Smiths, but 1" difference in a 25yd. group is insignificant. Reliability is a toss up, with both at 100%.
The new plastic Kahr is the weight class leader, though the steel ones are still a bit lighter than the Smith. I'm waiting for the price to drop down a bit before I spring for one. I really love the consistent, smooth, single pull trigger of the K9. If the DA/SA of the S&W does not bother you, it's certainly among the best of its type. Verdict: Kahr
The new plastic Kahr is the weight class leader, though the steel ones are still a bit lighter than the Smith. I'm waiting for the price to drop down a bit before I spring for one. I really love the consistent, smooth, single pull trigger of the K9. If the DA/SA of the S&W does not bother you, it's certainly among the best of its type. Verdict: Kahr
It just so happens that I was at a gunshop last night with somebody and we were comparing the S&W 3913 with the 6906. Both are exactly the same size in length & height with the 6906 being a little bit thicker in order to hold the double stack magazine. Unfortunately, with current laws in place, the 6906 only comes with two 10 round magazines -- not the original 12-rounders. Although pre-ban hi-cap magazines are still available for the 6906, you'll end up paying a very high price for them (on the order of $40+ for each).
If you're going to stick with the 10-rounders that currently come with the 6906, then I would go for the slimmer profile of the 3913 over the 6906. If you get the 12 rounders, then I agree with Ben that the 6906 wins out over the 3913.
Consequently, when comparing the 3913 with the K9 (your original question), I would pick the 3913 instead of the K9. While it is slightly larger than the K9, the 3913 gives you one extra round of firepower and I like the fact that it has more safety features than the Kahr (magazine disconnect, manual safety & decocker, etc.) plus it's a traditional DA/SA model while the K9 is DAO. I think that the traditional DA/SA is better than a DAO unless the DAO has a repeat striker capability (like the Colt Pocket Nine had) -- which the K9 does not have.
In my opinion (and this might not work for others), I would get the 3913 over the K9.
Laughs, I'm not sure if I can be very much help. I've never handled a Kahr or a 3913. However my first handgun was a S&W 4013. It's the same gun as the 3913 except in .40 and a little bulkier as a result. Having said that, I probably wouldn't buy another S&W auto.
There was nothing particularly wrong with it. It was fairly reliable and accurate. The main problem I had with it was the trigger (I hate DA), and the fact that it just didn't fit my hand very well.
bkm...
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There was nothing particularly wrong with it. It was fairly reliable and accurate. The main problem I had with it was the trigger (I hate DA), and the fact that it just didn't fit my hand very well.
bkm...
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Anyone worth shooting, is worth shooting twice...
I own a Kahr K9 and a S&W 6906. Though they are both 9mm, I can't say that I'd put them in the same class. The 6906 is significantly bigger than the K9. Side by side (and on your hip), it's really noticeable.
Now the 3913/3914/908 is another story. Though they are the same height and length as a 6906, the 39XXs are much more concealable.
As far shootability goes, I have to give the nod to the Kahr. The DAO trigger is short and smooth on the K9. It is one of the easiest small guns to shoot fast. I actually won the stock service pistol class at a local IDPA match with my K9.
It all comes down to which one feels the best to you and which one you shoot better. Reliability/value wise, it's a tie between the two.
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Now the 3913/3914/908 is another story. Though they are the same height and length as a 6906, the 39XXs are much more concealable.
As far shootability goes, I have to give the nod to the Kahr. The DAO trigger is short and smooth on the K9. It is one of the easiest small guns to shoot fast. I actually won the stock service pistol class at a local IDPA match with my K9.
It all comes down to which one feels the best to you and which one you shoot better. Reliability/value wise, it's a tie between the two.
[This message has been edited by DMSC (edited March 17, 2000).]
I traded my smith 669 for the Kahr k40. The Smith was "ok" but I never felt good about its feel in my hand (small hands). The Kahr is completely different! It went right to the top of my list of guns that "feel good". 2nd place of feel good is still the Browning HiPower.
Yes the Kahr is DAO but it trigger is so smooth I shoot it better than the Smith.
Yes the Kahr is DAO but it trigger is so smooth I shoot it better than the Smith.
In view of Smith&Wesson's sell out to Vlad the Monica Impaler, I would buy the Kahr.
I have shot the Kahr K9, and the MK9. Both are very good pistols, and besides, the Moonies are a better class of people than the Smiths, if you catch my drift.
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I have shot the Kahr K9, and the MK9. Both are very good pistols, and besides, the Moonies are a better class of people than the Smiths, if you catch my drift.
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Off my meds (quit smoking), armed to the teeth, and loose on an unsuspecting society!!!
I very much like my wife's 3913- very comfortable grip, fairly smooth trigger, breaks cleanly although a touch heavy, very reliable. I feel much more comfortable w/ its safety than the Kahr which has none. I think if it wasn't for the safety I would probably go for the Kahr.
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buy one of each, shoot them both and put the one you like the least in your safe for a rainy day.
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Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what is for lunch.
Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the outcome of the vote.
Let he that hath no sword sell his garment and buy one.--And they said. Lord here are two swords. And he said unto them. That is not enough. Luke 22-36,38
They all hold swords, being expert in war: every man hath his sword upon his thigh because of fear in the night. Song of Solomon 3-8
i have an S&W 669 (older version of 6906) and i could never imagine carrying it concealed. its just TOO big, especially in width. however i like this gun alot and shoot it well. but this is a 2nd generation S&W and i don't like 3rd generation's half as much. i think they are much poorer made than their older brothers and don't compare in reliability.
i would take the kahr over the smith since the kahr is quite noticably smaller and only holds 1 round less. it has a good trigger and many people say it's quite accurate and reliable.
i would take the kahr over the smith since the kahr is quite noticably smaller and only holds 1 round less. it has a good trigger and many people say it's quite accurate and reliable.
If you can get the old style 3913. The new ones with the plastic rail under the frame's dust cover look cobbled together.
The one thing I dislike about the 3913 are the grips, they are slippery when wet and chafe quite a bit. Hogues makes some fine replacements. Some people with small hands have trouble manipulating the safety. Also be aware that these pistols have a magazine disconnect safety, it won't fire without a magazine. I wont address merits or negatives of this safety, just make sure you like it.
I know you didn't ask, but for about the same money (less in my area) compare the 3913 to the SIG Sauer P239. I find the trigger pulls superior and safety set up more to my liking on the P239.
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The one thing I dislike about the 3913 are the grips, they are slippery when wet and chafe quite a bit. Hogues makes some fine replacements. Some people with small hands have trouble manipulating the safety. Also be aware that these pistols have a magazine disconnect safety, it won't fire without a magazine. I wont address merits or negatives of this safety, just make sure you like it.
I know you didn't ask, but for about the same money (less in my area) compare the 3913 to the SIG Sauer P239. I find the trigger pulls superior and safety set up more to my liking on the P239.
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So many pistols, so little money.
I had a SS DAO version of the 3913 (3954?). It was a nice pistol, but even after an Actions by T trigger job I never developed a 'relationship' with the pistol. It did not feel particulary good in MY hand, it was flat, but it was rather large. I now own a Kahr MK9 and K40 Covert, neither of which are going to me sold anytime soon. Note, the S&W I had, the Kahr's I have.