Anyone out there shooting 38super in a stock/uncompensated gun? After my last IPSC competition, I was picking up brass indiscriminately and found a bunch of 38super when I got it out of the tumbler at home. Never shot this round, what is everyone's impression of it? Every 38super I have seen in use has always been a full "Racegun" with all the bells and whistles. Are the high velocity rounds controllable without all the gun modifications? I'd guess it has a fast muzzle flip like the 10mm. I also pulled out the 2002 Guns Annual and flipped through the 1911 vendors.....none listed the 38super, but I know their making them. Is this a secret conspiracy to keep a great cartridge out of the hands of the public? I have one local dealer who really likes the round and states that it just doesn't get the publicity. The Gun Annual proves that!
38Super in an uncompensated gun
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When I was suffering the 1911 affliction, the .38 Super was my personal choice. I owned a Gold Cup in the caliber plus I carried, and shot, a lightweight Commander in that caliber and never thought the recoil was anything but mild.
I thought the advent of .38 SuperComp cartridge di alot to unseat the original at the top of the I*SC (*-ain't nuthin' "practical" about it) heap. The cartridge never sold in any great numbers before becoming the darling of those gamesters (once I was one too), and I don't imagine it sells well now either. Still it is a good cartridge.
Since being cured, and blessed with Glock Nirvana (incurable I'm told~sigh), I've switched to the 9mm and have learned to love it for alot of reasons.
I thought the advent of .38 SuperComp cartridge di alot to unseat the original at the top of the I*SC (*-ain't nuthin' "practical" about it) heap. The cartridge never sold in any great numbers before becoming the darling of those gamesters (once I was one too), and I don't imagine it sells well now either. Still it is a good cartridge.
Since being cured, and blessed with Glock Nirvana (incurable I'm told~sigh), I've switched to the 9mm and have learned to love it for alot of reasons.
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Okay, currently I'm out of the Super38 business, but...
I've had a couple. One was a full size Government Model, the other a LW Commander. Relatively stock guns. No comps, anyway.
I shot rather "normal" loads out of them, HPs in the 125 to 140 grain range. Some lead in the same weight range. Tried a experiment with 90-100 grain bullets, but didn't like the way they grouped.
Regular Super beats the tar out of 9x19 at a walk.
I do have a barrel and slide and magazines for Super in search of a suitable 1911 frame.
I've had a couple. One was a full size Government Model, the other a LW Commander. Relatively stock guns. No comps, anyway.
I shot rather "normal" loads out of them, HPs in the 125 to 140 grain range. Some lead in the same weight range. Tried a experiment with 90-100 grain bullets, but didn't like the way they grouped.
Regular Super beats the tar out of 9x19 at a walk.
I do have a barrel and slide and magazines for Super in search of a suitable 1911 frame.
Sprinfield Armory Mil SPec 38 Super
Have been considering the SA 38 super as my next pistol purchase. Have two 45acp SA's that have served me well. Still amazed at the jump in price between the 45acp and 38 super. The law of Supply & Demand exhibited well here. I am in a toss up over this pistol or a SA "Loaded" in 40 S&W. The 40 S&W would be reamed out for 10mm. For IPSC Limited 10 class, I'd have the full 10 rds in a 38 super single stack mag versus only 9 rds in a 10mm mag. I'm still debating which comes first.
Have been considering the SA 38 super as my next pistol purchase. Have two 45acp SA's that have served me well. Still amazed at the jump in price between the 45acp and 38 super. The law of Supply & Demand exhibited well here. I am in a toss up over this pistol or a SA "Loaded" in 40 S&W. The 40 S&W would be reamed out for 10mm. For IPSC Limited 10 class, I'd have the full 10 rds in a 38 super single stack mag versus only 9 rds in a 10mm mag. I'm still debating which comes first.
I too an EAA Witness, and for the $290 I spent for it, it is a great pistol.
About the only complaint that I have is with the rim (or semi rim) of the .38 S giving me some mag jams. But this has been only in loading the mags, and after round 13 of 18. I have never had a mag jam while firing the pistol.
Shooting the .38 S is a breeze. As easy as any 9mm. The heft of the Witness could be a factor though.
For the price, I'd say grab a Witness and have a fun gun.
I had my .38S rechambered to 9x23 (2nd .38S barrel reamed to proper dimensions), put a heavier recoil spring in the pistol and voila (or is that viola like Kelly Bundy used to say!
) I have me a true hot rod. FWIW, expect a few FTE malfs, the extractor of the .38S ain't tuned for the 9x23. Per Dane Burns, the Witness frame isn't strong enough to handle 9x23 in large doses.
Derek
About the only complaint that I have is with the rim (or semi rim) of the .38 S giving me some mag jams. But this has been only in loading the mags, and after round 13 of 18. I have never had a mag jam while firing the pistol.
Shooting the .38 S is a breeze. As easy as any 9mm. The heft of the Witness could be a factor though.
For the price, I'd say grab a Witness and have a fun gun.
I had my .38S rechambered to 9x23 (2nd .38S barrel reamed to proper dimensions), put a heavier recoil spring in the pistol and voila (or is that viola like Kelly Bundy used to say!
) I have me a true hot rod. FWIW, expect a few FTE malfs, the extractor of the .38S ain't tuned for the 9x23. Per Dane Burns, the Witness frame isn't strong enough to handle 9x23 in large doses. Derek
I don't know about "power factors", but I've been shooting a Light Weight Commander since 1973. I killed a slew of armadillos with it down in the wilds of Arkansas. Plugging a 'diller with JHP's usually meant a foot chase to keep the quarry in sight. I used a Glaser Safety Slug one night & the critter acted like he'd been hit by a sledge hammer. He just sat down & expired right there.