Just so ya'll know this isn't urgent, I'm going to order a Springfield "loaded" in 45acp for my first IPSC Limited gun next week. However, down the road I would like to order a 9mm Springfield to convert to 38 super to "backup" the 45 if it should break, and as the basis for an Open gun in the distant future. I've often wondered about this caliber, and it has much more appeal than 357sig for me. However, I've also heard many stories of blown caseheads when loaded hot to meet Major power factor. I know Major was just lowered to 165, do you still need a fully supported barrel to meet major? And any advice on the conversion to keep in mind?
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38 Super, How Hot Can It Go
- Thread starter PKN
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Robert the41MagFan
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If you are looking for a ultra hot 9mm, my understanding was that both Kimber and Springfield were going to produce a limited production run of 9x23 guns for IPSC. Test the waters. The ballistics of this cartridge are superior to that of the 357 Sig (9x23 has TRUE 357 Magnum ballistics) and have been proving themselves very reliable in the field.
Robert
[This message has been edited by Robert the41MagFan (edited June 13, 2000).]
Robert
[This message has been edited by Robert the41MagFan (edited June 13, 2000).]
PKN,
If you are planning on that Springfield for the new "Limited 10" division, you will be fine. But it probably won't be competetive in regular Limited class where you will be competing against hi cap limited race guns.
As far as a 9mm or 38 super Springfield as a back up to the .45, be aware that .40 cal is the minimum required to make major in Limited division (don't know if this applies to the new Limited 10 division).
As far as the basis for an open gun - don't even consider a non hi cap gun for open. Sure, you can do it, but it is a huge handicap going against guys with 27 round magazines, when your single stack holds 10 or 11 rounds.
In the early days of .38 supre being used for IPSC, there were a fair number of guns blown up. However, with fully supported barrels (and careful sane reloading, using proper components), .38 super blow ups are almost non existent.
You might want to consider .38 supercomp or 9X23 rather than regular .38 super. Both of these are rimless, compared to the semi-rimmed .38 super. Rimless design helps to eliminate "rim stack" and the guns are generally more reliable.
Avoid 357sig for IPSC. In limited, it won't score major. In open, it has the capacity of a .40. Just not a good way to go.
If you are planning on that Springfield for the new "Limited 10" division, you will be fine. But it probably won't be competetive in regular Limited class where you will be competing against hi cap limited race guns.
As far as a 9mm or 38 super Springfield as a back up to the .45, be aware that .40 cal is the minimum required to make major in Limited division (don't know if this applies to the new Limited 10 division).
As far as the basis for an open gun - don't even consider a non hi cap gun for open. Sure, you can do it, but it is a huge handicap going against guys with 27 round magazines, when your single stack holds 10 or 11 rounds.
In the early days of .38 supre being used for IPSC, there were a fair number of guns blown up. However, with fully supported barrels (and careful sane reloading, using proper components), .38 super blow ups are almost non existent.
You might want to consider .38 supercomp or 9X23 rather than regular .38 super. Both of these are rimless, compared to the semi-rimmed .38 super. Rimless design helps to eliminate "rim stack" and the guns are generally more reliable.
Avoid 357sig for IPSC. In limited, it won't score major. In open, it has the capacity of a .40. Just not a good way to go.
Thanks for the info. I do plan on using the Springfield for regular Limited, as I don't yet have the funds to buy not only a hi-cap gun, but $400 worth of magazines to feed it. I figure if the time comes I can step up to a hi-cap. Plus I can shoot single stacks better. I was unaware of the .40 rule, thanks for cluing me in. I think I've decided to go with a dedicated Limited gun once I get the money, but I will still get the Springfield this month so I can at least start shooting.