thickstrings
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I've been reading around the net lately, that it is possible to shoot 32 H&R mags in a moisen nagant revolver? Is this true?.....
32 magnum Nagant?
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ribbonstone
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This is going to take a bit...but hang in and read it anyway.
Nagant cylinder mouth is cut to fit a bullet wrapped in a brass case...if you measure it, will find it about .336-.338".
ANY round besides Nagant ammo (.32SW, .32SWl, .32HRM) releases the bullet into that .336" hole, where it kind of rattles around a bit before crossing into the barrel. Uually doesn't do any real harm, accuracy is often acceptable, but seldom outstanding (but the trigger pull on most nagants kind of rule out any real precison work anyway).
SO...yes, the .32HRM is much much higher is pressure than the Nagant was made for. BUT you lose some of that pressure by way of having the bullet released into that oversized chamber mouth. IS it safe? Proably not...but many onwers have done it and lived to tell the tale.
Does stress the gun a bit...the case tends to swell and a case split will dump high pressure gas. If that happens, it's usually defelcted by the recoil shield and jets out the rear of the cylinder to the sides...bad luck to have a body part close. It's not a great idea.
Stick with .32SWL....it has the same problems of corssing that large cylinder throuat, but the pressure is low and it seems to manage the trick pretty well.
Nagant cylinder mouth is cut to fit a bullet wrapped in a brass case...if you measure it, will find it about .336-.338".
ANY round besides Nagant ammo (.32SW, .32SWl, .32HRM) releases the bullet into that .336" hole, where it kind of rattles around a bit before crossing into the barrel. Uually doesn't do any real harm, accuracy is often acceptable, but seldom outstanding (but the trigger pull on most nagants kind of rule out any real precison work anyway).
SO...yes, the .32HRM is much much higher is pressure than the Nagant was made for. BUT you lose some of that pressure by way of having the bullet released into that oversized chamber mouth. IS it safe? Proably not...but many onwers have done it and lived to tell the tale.
Does stress the gun a bit...the case tends to swell and a case split will dump high pressure gas. If that happens, it's usually defelcted by the recoil shield and jets out the rear of the cylinder to the sides...bad luck to have a body part close. It's not a great idea.
Stick with .32SWL....it has the same problems of corssing that large cylinder throuat, but the pressure is low and it seems to manage the trick pretty well.
Doubletaptap
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I'd say buy some 7.62 Nagant ammo. It's not that expensive.
Just FYI
Don't mean to be "nit-picky" but it is an "M1895 Nagant Revolver." Nagant designed the revolver.... Mosin had nothing to do with it's design.
Nagant's name is included in the "Mosin-Nagant Rifle" because Nagant contributed to the magazine design of the rifle.
Just FYI
Don't mean to be "nit-picky" but it is an "M1895 Nagant Revolver." Nagant designed the revolver.... Mosin had nothing to do with it's design.
Nagant's name is included in the "Mosin-Nagant Rifle" because Nagant contributed to the magazine design of the rifle.
Just FYI
Actually, the Russian Nagant service round is about on the same pressure level as the .32 Magnum, and well above the .32 S&W Long. I got one of those .32 ACP cylinders and reamed it to .32 Magnum, letting me shoot .32 ACP, .32 S&W, .32 S&W Long, and .32 H&R Magnum. While I have not done any extensive tests, I have fired all of them enough that I don't expect to blow up the old gun with any of them.
I don't recommend using any of the above rounds in the original cylinder because of case bulging and possible splitting, not because of any danger of a blowup.
BTW, I am not planning to put away my Model 19 and carry that Nagant any time soon.
Jim
I don't recommend using any of the above rounds in the original cylinder because of case bulging and possible splitting, not because of any danger of a blowup.
BTW, I am not planning to put away my Model 19 and carry that Nagant any time soon.
Jim
AmesJainchill
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Here's just a Google comparison of some information...
http://www.handloads.com/loaddata/d...&Weight=All&type=Handgun&Order=Powder&Source=
Everything else in .32 H&R Magnum was at 4 or five grains of powder. Target loads?
and from someone else...
http://members.nuvox.net/~on.melchar/nagant/
I also found this information, from here:
http://club.guns.ru/wwwboard/message/eng/2406.html
These two loads don't seem very different to me, just an amateur here. If the gun will survive 14 grains it should survive ten...
So, I would guess that the Nagant will fire the .32 Magnum. But I don't actually know much about guns, so I'm talking out my...ear here.
http://www.handloads.com/loaddata/d...&Weight=All&type=Handgun&Order=Powder&Source=
Everything else in .32 H&R Magnum was at 4 or five grains of powder. Target loads?
and from someone else...
http://members.nuvox.net/~on.melchar/nagant/
I also found this information, from here:
http://club.guns.ru/wwwboard/message/eng/2406.html
These two loads don't seem very different to me, just an amateur here. If the gun will survive 14 grains it should survive ten...
So, I would guess that the Nagant will fire the .32 Magnum. But I don't actually know much about guns, so I'm talking out my...ear here.