Quantum Singularity
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Just curious, I saw one at a gun store yesterday. What is the verdict on this model? Is it quality or a junk gun? What about durability? Other facts about it would be helpful as well...
.32 acp Gaurdian
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shooter.45
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I have one and love that little gun. It is great quality and they stand behind there product. I have a pic of mine on my site that you can check out if youd like. Link Below. Going to retake some of the pics tomorrow. But it is pretty accurate too not one prob with the one I have.
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Unless you can afford (wait time & money) a Seecamp, the NAA Guardian is an excellent gun for those times when REALLY DEEP concealment is needed. While I do not have a lot of faith in the round as a good stopper (I know, I know ... people have been killed with .25's), it's better than being unarmed. What I especially like about it is that it is a TRUE DAO pistol in that it has a repeat striker capability and an external (but concealed) hammer.
I would recommend getting one (unless you go for the Seecamp instead) because you never know when you might need a REALLY DEEP concealment firearm.
I would recommend getting one (unless you go for the Seecamp instead) because you never know when you might need a REALLY DEEP concealment firearm.
I have the Guardian and the Keltec P32. IMO, the P32 is the better choice. It's lighter and flatter than the Guardian, and the felt recoil is considerably less than the Guardian. It's a very shootable little gun, and it melts away in a pocket. My Keltec has also been more reliable than the Guardian, which tends to jam on the last shot about every 3rd mag.
Quantum Singularity
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I hear the trigger really sucks on the Gaurdians (15 plus pounds). Any comments on the trigger pull. Again, what about durability (do they last a reasonable amount of time w/o frame cracks and other major breakdowns)?
I suppose I could always get a trigger pull job on one should I get it?
I suppose I could always get a trigger pull job on one should I get it?
Quantum Singularity, trigger pull is pretty heavy -- around 12-15 pounds but the pull is fairly even all he way true. Additionally, I tend to actually like heavy trigger pulls on pistols which don't have a manual safety ... guess that's why I don't like the Glocks and even feel uneasy with my Kahr MK9. Regards, FUD.
shooter.45
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On my guardian it does not stovepipe and have not had one jam. On my friends Keltec p32 it always has jams. Guardian is much better just my opinion. If you can try both first.
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I much prefer the P-32 over any of its heavier counter parts. Mine has never jammed and weighs only 6.6 ounces on my PD's postal scale, I weighed it today at work. It is the perfect backup gun and can be carried for a 12 hour shift and you do not even notice that its there. It is the backup/off duty gun that I have beem searching for all of my career. It is so light, flat, reliable and concealable that I reccommened them to all of my Officers. Most cops don't carry a backup due to the size and weight problems. We have to carry more and more junk on our duty belts and a few extra ounces may not seem like much, until you get loaded down with all of the crap, that modern LEO's are burdened with. In case you can't tell, I love my P-32 and highly reccommend them to my brother officers as well as armed citizens.
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Quantum Singularity
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Fud,
Thanks for the input. You made a valid point about safety. I do see your point, and I agree that in certain situations a heavy trigger is necessary--especially for inexperienced shooters or unsafe gun handlers like young kids.
However, personally, I think a 10 lb DA or DAO trigger is plenty for safety. Any heavier than that, and it gets hard to shoot accurately. I am from the school that if you keep your finger off the trigger, the gun will not go off. I don't like it when manufactures like Ruger put 15 pound DA triggers on their otherwise excellent line of revolvers. I would definently have to have the action smoothed out by a gunsmith if I were to get the Gaurdian (I don't like Klinton style triggers--which are so heavy that hitting a barn from 3 yards away becomes tough).
Thanks for the input. You made a valid point about safety. I do see your point, and I agree that in certain situations a heavy trigger is necessary--especially for inexperienced shooters or unsafe gun handlers like young kids.
However, personally, I think a 10 lb DA or DAO trigger is plenty for safety. Any heavier than that, and it gets hard to shoot accurately. I am from the school that if you keep your finger off the trigger, the gun will not go off. I don't like it when manufactures like Ruger put 15 pound DA triggers on their otherwise excellent line of revolvers. I would definently have to have the action smoothed out by a gunsmith if I were to get the Gaurdian (I don't like Klinton style triggers--which are so heavy that hitting a barn from 3 yards away becomes tough).