300 WSM v 300 Win Mag. v 300 Remington Ultra mag.

MSPHUNTER

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Which caliber do you recomend for ranges up to 450 yds? I want to know which would be the best for elk, bear, or any other big north american animal, I have limmiter it to these 300 WSM v 300 Win Mag. v 300 Remington Ultra mag. because I want a Browning A-Bolt.
 
For elk and bear up to 450 yards I'd recommend a .50 caliber with a lazer rangfinding scope.

Seriously, 450 yards is too far to be shooting at anything without a benchrest and a vise.

Shake
 
If you really want to shoot that far I think you'll find that the 300 Ultra Mag carries better down range energy than the 300 Win Mag or 300 WSM.

I bought a 300 Ultra Mag in 1999. I like it but think I would prefer the new 300 or 7mm SAUM that Remington spun off of the 300 Ultra.

The 300 Ultra Mag is really a thumper, on both the delivery and receiving ends.
 
Don't go with the ultra mag. IMO it is too much gun for the average shooter/hunter. The actual advantage of the extra 150-200 fps is negligible until you get well past sane hunting range. I hear all the time about fantastic 500+ yrd shots in the field. 99% of us have no right to attempt a shot at anywhere near that range in field conditions. Go with one of Winchester's chamberings. You will get great performance with much reduced recoil.
 
A first question is how experienced are you? If you are indeed a very experienced, first-class rifleman, that's one thing. If you're just getting started, it's something else entirely different. So, I'll just sorta generalize.

Between us, my father and I have taken some pretty fair-sized deer out to 400 and 500 yards. One-shot kills, with the '06. But we've been in this game for decades. I've been using the '06 since 1950...

I think I'd go with the Short Magnum, because of the advantage of the shorter, stiffer action. From what I've read, there is a tad less recoil, just from the burning characteristics of the powder and the lesser loading--for nearly the same performance as the larger cartridges.

Now, for a beginning hunter of elk, moose or black bear, I guess I'd recommend either a .308 or an '06--and a whole bunch of practice away from any benchrest. (There are other suitable cartridges, sure, but I tend toward the .30 and particularly the '06.)

$0.02, Art
 
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