300 Blackout
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Seems like a pretty anemic cartridge a 125gr projectile leaving the barrel at 2250fps and 1400ft/lbs. All very well to have a 30cal AR round like that but i'd have to question that given the performance of the cartridge is it really worth it?
I have no experience with this cartridge that's just my observation. But hey I'm keen to play with any new cartridge so why not.
I have no experience with this cartridge that's just my observation. But hey I'm keen to play with any new cartridge so why not.
Technosavant
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Looks interesting, but I think I may end up giving it a pass.
Ballistics aren't bad... they're right where they wanted (similar to 7.62x39), but it really shines when subsonic and suppressed. However, it's comparatively expensive to shoot, so I just don't really have a slot for it in my own collection.
If I were building a cost no object (more for ammo than anything else) defensive rifle for suppressed use, it would be a VERY interesting option. However, it doesn't really appear to be a hunting cartridge like .450BM or .458SOCOM, and that limits its utility.
Ballistics aren't bad... they're right where they wanted (similar to 7.62x39), but it really shines when subsonic and suppressed. However, it's comparatively expensive to shoot, so I just don't really have a slot for it in my own collection.
If I were building a cost no object (more for ammo than anything else) defensive rifle for suppressed use, it would be a VERY interesting option. However, it doesn't really appear to be a hunting cartridge like .450BM or .458SOCOM, and that limits its utility.
Yup. If you aren't running suppressed then it's basically a 7.62x39 that can fit within the severe restrictions of an AR action. If you love overspending on everything then this could be something to look at.
Now for subsonic/suppressed it most certainly has use. An autoloader that can shoot 220 grain 30 cal slugs at subsonic velocity with good accuracy. There are some videos of people using it to hunt hogs. They can sometimes get several shots off without spooking them.
As for me, I just shoot my suppressed 77/44 for pennies a shot instead of the dollar a round that the 300 Blackout guys have to shell out for the high end subsonic stuff. Everyone can shoot what they want.
riverwalker76
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It's just a cartridge that fixes and non-existent problem, in my opinion. I have fired it,and am not impressed at all with the ballistics.
It will probably turn into another Ackley type cartridge that has very few followers, and leaves the shooter doing all of the work.
The bottom line behind this cartridge is that everyone wants to get a piece of the pie with a military contract. In all reality, it will probably NEVER make it to the preliminary testing phases with the US military, and will fall by the wayside in 5 to 10 years. Fifty years from now people will look back on it, and call it an obsolete cartridge, and there will be no interest in it whatsoever.
Sorry to be so skeptical, but I'm in the exact same boat with the .458 Socom. At least that cartridge has some potential. The 300 Blackout has no use whatsoever unless you run a suppressor, and even then .... there are better choices.
In my opinion, there are a lot of ammo and gun nuts who are asking 'what's next?', so they are inventing cartridges and firearms to curb their appetite for something new. The military and other popular cartridges have already been perfected. People are chasing unicorns if you ask me.
There are some who want to be able to claim 2k yard accuracy and sub-MOA at 1000 yards with their next caliber incarnation. It's not happening, and they should really look elsewhere.
It will probably turn into another Ackley type cartridge that has very few followers, and leaves the shooter doing all of the work.
The bottom line behind this cartridge is that everyone wants to get a piece of the pie with a military contract. In all reality, it will probably NEVER make it to the preliminary testing phases with the US military, and will fall by the wayside in 5 to 10 years. Fifty years from now people will look back on it, and call it an obsolete cartridge, and there will be no interest in it whatsoever.
Sorry to be so skeptical, but I'm in the exact same boat with the .458 Socom. At least that cartridge has some potential. The 300 Blackout has no use whatsoever unless you run a suppressor, and even then .... there are better choices.
In my opinion, there are a lot of ammo and gun nuts who are asking 'what's next?', so they are inventing cartridges and firearms to curb their appetite for something new. The military and other popular cartridges have already been perfected. People are chasing unicorns if you ask me.
There are some who want to be able to claim 2k yard accuracy and sub-MOA at 1000 yards with their next caliber incarnation. It's not happening, and they should really look elsewhere.snipecatcher
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I like it because it allows me to have an AR15 with a 10" barrel AND a relatively efficient cartridge. It is somewhere in between a rifle and pistol round. Rifle rounds are inefficient in short barrels, and pistol rounds do not allow longer range shooting.
With my 110 grain V-max's moving at 2200 fps, I can get out to 350 yards with the holdovers on my reticle. It's short, efficient, and packs a sufficient punch for hunting. The modern day 30/30.
With my 110 grain V-max's moving at 2200 fps, I can get out to 350 yards with the holdovers on my reticle. It's short, efficient, and packs a sufficient punch for hunting. The modern day 30/30.
I did some comparisons when the Remington 30AR came out and found it doesn't offer much over the 7.62x39. The 300AAC is less of everything compared to those two and only offers advantages when suppressed. While I'm not a fan of the 7.62x39, when handloaded , it offers useable accuracy and is suitable for smaller deer out to 150 yards. I let a beginning hunter use a Rossi 7.62 last year and he killed two button bucks with one shot each.