Anyone reloading 45ACP with these plated bullets Rainier 230gr. FMJ using only for target shooting , ordered 500 from MidwayUSA today. My 45 has CT Laser grips , having fun being able to point an shoot with the laser , bullet hits where the dot is . Enables you to see what your doing wrong . The Rainier bullets are a few dollars cheaper per 100 from the Winchester bullets I am shooting now .