22LR Advice -please

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JerseySlayer

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Hello, My name is Fred, I'm new to your forum.

I own several model 70's in 270 and 30-06 that I use for hunting.

I am looking to set up a 22lr with a scope for some inexpensive shooting to also "TRAIN" me -- improve my overall abilities --

I am looking at the savage mkII bv and mkII btv
seems to be the best for the money--- I love the ruger 77/22 (looks like my m70's) but they are pricey--
g and
the question is this I am pretty sure I want a laminate stock--(read poor reviews of their synthetics)

I really like the BTV -thumbhole---but I am concerned that it will be less like my hunting rifles---

am I nuts?--- my thinking is that the BV will most closely resemble my M70's -thus be the best training--

HELP----thanks ... I have been lurkin and reading for a while now--
 
You need to train with similar equipment and positions as you would see in the field. Don't get the thumbhole stock as it will rotate your hand and trigger finger into a different position than that of your model 70's.

Keep the same style stock, this will allow you to fine tune your abilities on that type of platform.
 
That's what I was thinking--...But I'm a Noob


Is the laminate stock worth the extra cost?

local dick's has synthetic combo(with cheap scope) for 269.99 I found laminate for 310.00


Also -- should I put the same type scope on my 22 as on my centerfires to keep continuity? my current scopes are all 3-9x40

pentax whitetails unlimited
nikon team primos(monarch) 2 of these
and a kahles cl multizero
 
To me the laminate is worth the extra cost. It looks 10x better than the composite/plastic, is very durable and will not swell like normal wood stocks if it gets wet, and will also help give the 22 a heavier feel more like your hunting rifles.

Scopes, i would stay in the same power range, but you can go with a cheaper brand to help keep costs down on the "trainer" rifle.
 
I think any of the Savage .22's will fulfill you needs. They are a great bargain and will serve well regardless of stock design. Choose the one that you like the best. As for training, if you stress the fundamentals of marksmanship the gun itself makes little difference. I train with a ten meter air rifle for Service Rifle competition. The two guns are completely different but the requirements for eye-hand coordination are the same. Transitioning between the 'feels' is not a real issue.
Pick the gun you like the best and shoot the hell out of it.
 
Since your training

If your trying to duplicate the training of your model 70s (I'm guessing straighline rather modern stock Model 70) with the closest in similar feel in the 22lr platform, buy the CZ 452 or 455 AMERICAN. It will be the closest feel to what you already shoot.
 
4winds already said it. CZ 455 AMERICAN. I have one and it feels more like a centerfire than any real centerfire I have seen. I have a Hawke 8.5-25x42 TAC 30 on it now with fully adjustable rings. I am able to dial to 300 yards and use the reticule to 500. AWESOME combination. Truly amazing. This setup will run you about $1,000 and is the best trainer for long range shooting IMO. I have installed pillars and done some trigger/bolt work and did not include what that would cost as I did it myself. Don't skimp on the scope.
 
I am looking at the savage mkII bv and mkII btv
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I've owned a MkII BV for three years now and find it to be an excellent rimfire rifle. The Accu-trigger is a real nice feature that certainly aids accuracy. I mounted a 2-7x Weaver rimfire scope on mine and it's a fine combination.
 
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I agree with precision_shooter,also the Savage will have the accu trigger, at least those made after 2006! :) Cliff
 
The CZ 452 will most likely be considerably more accurate than the Ruger, and cost less as well. It will be similar in operation and feel to your centerfire for cheap practice. I use my 452 American for just that purpose.
 
I am honestly surprised no one has mentioned Marlin.
I have collection of 22lr rifle to include the likes of Savage and Colt but my all time favorite is my $75 Marlin Glenfield model 25. I just couldn't stand seeing sit there unloved in the corner of a local gun shop I frequent. I brought it home through a Bosh & Lomb fixed 8 power scope I had laying around on it and fell in love. Something about the microgroove rifling they use makes a sweet shooter. This thing is accurate, I regularly knock acorns off tree stumps at 50 yards. They also don't lead foul like other barrels do quickly after a 330 box of pinking ammo on an afternoons adventure.
 
I've owned probably 40 rimfires, mostly vintage .22s. I'll recommend buying used, much better value most of the time. If you want accurate full sized rifles the first thing that comes to mind is classic Mossberg. My 146b is the most accurate .22 I've ever owned. Outshot my heavy barrelled Win 52. I paid $100 for the 146b in pristine condition in a pawn shop, I'm embarassed to say what I had in the Win 52. They can be had tube or magazine fed in a variety of stock options. Incredibly well made and every one I've had has shot wonderfully, and I've had a bunch.
 
I'll weigh in....

I own a model 70 Winchester and a Ruger 7722. I chose the stainless, laminated, varmint version of the Ruger for the precise reason of obtaining the closest counterpart to my Winchester as practical. The weight, feel, and operation, including the safety and bolt position are a darn close facsimile of my model 70. The trigger pull is a little heavier but getting used to it makes the Winchester that much nicer to pull off. For the purpose of matching the model 70 in a cheaper to shoot format, I think it can't be beat. JerseySlayer, do NOT get the thumbhole stock Savage. My shooting buddy got one and I've used it. It was awfully uncomfortable to twist my head upside down enough to get my eye to where I could look through the scope. Maybe with some really high rings it wouldn't feel that way. I'm not saying not to get the Savage; just not that one. I think they are pretty accurate from what I have heard and seen. For your stated purpose, go with a Ruger 7722. They have gotten spendy but you might hunt for a used one. If you don't need as close of a match to your Winchesters and want to save one the cost, look into a Marlin bolt action. While my Ruger shoots reasonably well as far as accuracy goes, I am certain that many Marlins will beat it. Maybe the Savage too. Pathfinder
 
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