.223 pistol?

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beastman

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Has anyone ever built such a beast?

Is anyone planning it?

What use would it be?

By the way, I don't count the T/C contender, as it shoots almost anything.
 
Olympic arms makes one, www.olyarms.com

and Car-bon makes one, i held a carbon, it's neat, got a good feel to it. holds a 30 round clip, it rocks, it would be fun, some purposes in swat senerios, put a small folding stock on it, and you have a sub-gun.

i want one, but i want a lot of stuff i don't need.

btw i had a tc/encore, and it put out 1 hell of a fire ball from a 12 " barrel.

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454Casull when it absolutely Has to be destroyed.
 
How 'about a .22 Hornet or 7.62x39 instead. ;) The former can be built on the Ruger Blackhawk frame and the latter on the .357 Maximum frame. I've built both when I was still in business bulding custom Blackhawks and Vaqueros.

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Gunslinger

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Am I missing something, or are all those delightful AR-15 .223 pistol kits advertised in Shotgun News illegal to use? I _really_ wanted to build one (first crack at building a gun, might as well do something simple and amusing), but the AW ban totally blocked it as far as I could see. Only hope was to get a lower reciever that is legally proven to have been part of such a configuration at one point, and those receivers ran about 5 times what they should cost.

(FWIW, I gave up on that and got a Class III 12-guage pistol.)
 
I'm interested in this gun kit idea. Anyone with experience building their own toy, or are they not worth the time and effort? I've seen posts where people were talking about building their own AR-15s, but could a reliable semiauto pistol or revolver be built? Is there a good online source for these kits? Thanks for any info.
 
You can legally build an AR-15 type pistol, BUT you must comply with all provisions of federal law when you do. The toughy on that configuration is the 50 oz weight limit. The Carbon pistols can get around it and Olympic get around it by swiss cheese drilling the receiver to get the weight down. There should be titanium alloy receivers available sometime this year and that might be enough of a weight reduction to meet the 50 oz limit. There are two other alternatives. You can removed the pistol from the compliance criteria by making it manually operated. This can be done by either having to use a pump handle or by having to use the charging handle to cycle the action for each shot. This is usually done by deactivating the gas system. The other method allows you to keep it as a semi-auto, but requires that the magazine body be permanently attached to the lower receiver. This removes it from the 'SA assault weapon' test because of a non-removable magazine. To reload you push out the rear pin, pivot the upper receiver up, and reload singly or through a stripper clip. I don't know what you are trying to accomplish, but before you go through all the trouble and expense please realize that the 2000+ fps ballistics that you see for the 55 gr bullet is from at least a 20" barrel. The velocity drops a lot to 16" and when you go down to a 9" or 7" barrel you are not shooting much more than a .22 Win Mag RF because all the powder is getting burned after it leaves the barrel. Remember that a .223 is at its best in a 24"-26" barrel due to the slow burning powder.
 
I saw a locally made .223 revolver in the Philipines about 25 years ago. It sort of looked like a S&W DA. The gun's owner said it kicked really hard but was fun to shoot.
 
I had a chance to buy the Rocky Mountain Patriot for $1200 and missed it. The Patriot is supposed to be one of the nicer .223 pistols. Of course there was the Spectre? (from down under) and the Bushmaster and now the Carbon-15. My recommendation is to get a Colt AR or Sporter. The .223 pistol really doesn't do much, I shot a friend's Carbon-15 once and it shot a hugh fireball with deafening sound. Without the stock, it is very difficult to control. Not much praticality other than the COOL factor :cool:
 
Thompson-Center (TC) has made various barrels in .223 for the TC Contender. I owned a scoped 10" back in the 1980s. It was effective on prairie dogs. Recoil was insignificant.
 
The muzzleflash in low-light conditions would be really bad. You'd need somekind of solid supressor to use it against BGs.

I think a regular shorty config AR with the telescoping stock is almost as compact and easier to use. But if you already have a shorty...?
 
Taurus makes a 22 Hornet in a revolver. Its called the Raging Hornet. I gotta get one to match my Raging Bull. ;)

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The Rocky Mountain Patriots are real sweet (some variants are very $$$)- flame thrower guy in Lethal Weapon had one (those movies can go to H*ll though).

There was also the SAP pistol, looks like a mini Krinkov AK-47 type jobby- except its all black. Very cool looking, very hard to find parts for. Currently run $1400-$1800.
 
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