Scratch, those guns shoot like demons. If you can see it, you can hit it. Out to 100+ yards with mini mags the guns are deadly. I have been to the range with them and people try to buy them off of me at crazy prices. I paid 39.95 each, plus 63.00 shipping, plus 60.00 for some sort of FFL deal. I ended up having 52.25 per gun invested. A darn good deal. Go in with some friends and/or relatives and get ten of them from Burns Bros. You won't regret it. I just wish I could order 10 more without Uncle Sam stepping in.