200gr 1180fps Hornady XTP vs 180gr 1325fps Hornady XTP

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TINCAN

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10mm 200 gr Hornady xtp 1180fps - 620ftlbs
10mm 180 gr Hornady xtp 1325 fps - 700ftlbs

Possible hunting
platform- glock 20


The real question is concerning the two different wieghts at different speeds. which would be the better choice and why?

thx
 
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I would use the one I could hit the most reliably with. It does not matter how much BE that is delivered if you can not hit what you intend to shoot. Either should plenty enough to get the job done. I have killed deer and hogs with arrows that only traveled at 280 fps.
 
Energy and momentum figures slightly favor the 180. KO figures are equal.

These figures are for at the muzzle; longer range can change them, but it won't be much.

Take your pick, and make sure you can hit well with it. There really isn't much difference between them.

Daryl
 
Where are you hunting? Are you sure you can legally use a 10mm?
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A good question, perhaps, but one I usually leave to the shooter to determine. Lots of places allow the 10mm for deer and such. Arizona, for example, only stipulates for big game (including elk) "Any centerfire handgun".

I guess they expect hunters to use common sense? Not a bad approach, IMO.

Daryl
 
hairsplitting

I think you're splitting hairs. Also, unless you know what velocity applies to your pistol, relying on published velocities might not be a true representation of what your Glock does. But hey, maybe those are YOUR velocities and I'm wrong.

I saw your other post re a "woods" load BTW. My conclusion was that yoiu were looking for a "bear" load, but I hate to mention it, cause the thread will start to spin, but... If I were carrying a G20 for last ditch protection against big hairy carnivore beasties, I would shoot the 200 gt TMJ bullet as hot as I could get it. Note that I have read that the CCI 200 TMJ Blazer is a mild load and does not deliver 10mm performance like it should. Another option is the bouitique ammo shops that load hot hard cast 200's.

For everything else except paper punching/practice, I would find a 180 gr JHP that shot to point of aim.

My own practice, since I don't live in big bear country, is to shoot 180 JHP for everything, except I have a some FMJ 180's that were cheaper for practice. That makes life pretty simple with a stock G20 and fixed sights.
The 180's go to the same place as I drive them at the same veloctiy with same load, etc. I am not certain that my G20 would print 200's to the same point of aim.

The G20 makes a good hard use auto, lots of punch, ammo in hand, compact. It is not a plinker, to expensive and loud for that, but for SD/GP use it is a favorite of mine.

T
 
It depends on what you're hunting. If we're talking about whitetail deer or other relatively thin-skinned non-dangerous game then the 180gr loading should be fine. If, however, you're hunting something bigger and/or dangerous like boar or bear, I think the extra penetration of the 200gr loading would probably be beneficial.
 
A good question, perhaps, but one I usually leave to the shooter to determine.
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The LAW may think otherwise.

I do think the 10mm would be very effective at close range on whitetail, but.. it may not be legal.
 
Oh yeah

My G20 goes deer hunting a couple times a season, as in pistol only. To date, a deer has not cooperated in walking by and presenting a shot I'm willing to take. Last year, deer in range but to dark.

One of these days I will connect. My deer load is Hornady 180 xtp factory.
 
Stats?

I dunno TINCAN... I checked Hornady's site just out of curiosity and they had different stats posted?
10mm 200 gr XTP - 1050/490 at the muzzle
10mm 180 gr XTP - 1180/556 at the muzzle

If you're really after performance, have you considered DoubleTap's Nosler?
10mm Nosler 200 gr - 1250/694 at the muzzle

Or their 200 gr WFNGC Hardcast?
10mm 200 gr Wide Flat Nose Gas Checked Hardcast - 1300/750

I've been shooting DT loads for quite a while and I'm very pleased... YMMV
 
10mm is legal in NH and specifically listed as a legal handgun caliber for deer. I use a 357 mag in my archery stands when the season turns and the leaves have fallen and the 25 yd archery stand turns into a 45-55 yard stand. Either of those loads would be suitable for deer. The 200 grain bullet may give you the added penetration for a angle shot where you had to go through the chest or shoulder. I wouldn't hesitate to use the 180XTP. I've had good luck with the Hornady XTP bullets. Most of my deer are closer to 120 lbs with some big ones going over 150lbs.
 
My chronograph tells me that Hornady is pretty honest about their published velocities for the 10mm. At the same time none of the Double Tap 10mm loads I have chronographed came close to the published velocity.

Just sayin',
Dave
 
Here are some actual chronograpghed loads out of my stock G20:

Double Tap 10mm Gold Dot-165gr- Double Tap 10mm Gold Dot 180gr
(advertised 1400fps-G20-4.6”bbl) (advertised 1300fps-G20-4.6”bbl)
1390 1226
1343 1250
1333 1220
1390 1205
1355 1253
------- 1362.2 AVG/ 57fps ES ------1231 AVG/47.45 fps ES

G20 4.6” Hornady Factory 200gr XTP G20 4.6” Hornady Factory 180gr XTP
(Advertised 1050fps-5”bbl) (Advertised 1180fps-5”bbl)
1010 1186
1006 1180
1002 1189
1005 ------
990 ------
------1003 AVG/ 20 fps ES ------1185 AVG/ 9 fps ES


They were all shot into rougly the same media (bag of wet top soil). i wasn't impressed with the DT ammo or the Gold Dot bullet. I did settle on the 180 XTP for my needs but the 200XTP was great too (180 was easier to find). I did sell the G20 for a Blackhawk 44mag. to settle my nerves though, I walked that path too before. YMMV
ps sorry about the format the spacing gets removed when I posted the numbers. imagine two columns if you will.
 
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WOW!
I sure didn't realize that I was hanging with a bunch of DT haters.:rolleyes:

If I'm not mistaken the OP wanted to know which Hornady round would be the best round for hunting? It's already been pointed out that he is very likely just 'spliting hairs'... wasting time and energy.

I only suggested he consider DT as an option. The WFNGC is a hard hitting round and many use it for hunting.
Little did I realize that I would be stepping on so many toes!:cool:
 
I should have mentioned the 200gr hornady bullet is from Swamp fox specific for the g29 the 10 gr is buffalo bore

once i get them in ill do some tests and repost
 
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