2000 Meters (mil-surp)

[No4Mk1*]

Many of the old military rifles, like the Russian M-1891 series, are sighted to shoot to 2,000 meters. Does anyone know what kind of bullet velocity could be expected at such far distances? If bullets are often re-entering sonic flight at ~900 meters, it seems they would be barely moving at 2000. Let me know what you think.

 

[Nightcrawler]

well...

...back in the 1870s, believe it or not, someone did a two mile shot (hitting a 6' diameter circular target). 1000 yard matches with low-velocity .45-70s, .45-90s, and .45-120s were once common too. The bullet WILL go that far, you just have to angle it up far enough.

Now, I don't think the average soldier was meant to be able to hit a man at 2000 yards. When the bulk of these rifles were designed, in the late 1800s, many armies were still using very Napoleonic tactics, and one of those tactics is to have your formation of troops line up and fire a volley at the enemy formation, while they're a long ways away. I'm guessing volley fire is where this was supposed to be applied.

Also, the reason many old rifles area very long is becasue they were meant to be used as a pike against mounted cavalry, with the bayonet installed.

 

[IamNOTaNUT]

These were meant to be man-portable, shoulder fired, small claiber field artillery pieces!

 

[IZZY]

I once read they were used Against artilery emplacements, on a squad level, bringing a rian of bullets on the artilerymen. Of course it was in Guns and ammo, so take it with a grain...no a block of salt...

 

[Tshoes]

And just what

Do you think you could remotely get close to at 1.2310605 miles??
Minute of AIR BASE...........fired on a 45 degree angle......MAYBE!!!!!!!!

 

[fed168]

Someone was an optimist. And just think, this was the time before optics became popular.

 

[Tshoes]

Yo!!>>>>Fed

They didn't NEED optics then...they ate more CARROTS
Where U been hangin???.
Haven't seen you posting lately............???