20 handguns tested for ignition reliablity. See which ones passed or failed.

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After my suprising test of 3 Glock pistols for ignition reliability all of which failed the test I began to wonder if all striker fired weapons were inferior and if all hammer guns were superior in terms of ignition reliability. Well I decided to find out before trusting any of these weapons with my life any more.

Unlike many of the egotists on this thread I am willing to learn new things and admit to everyone that I do not know it all and that I too can be wrong or come to wrong conclusions. This is exactly why I choose to conduct this test.

Was I wrong in thinking that it would be wise to stay away from all striker fired guns. Yes I was and here is the proof.

Here are the results of weapons tested using primed emty cases deliberately seated high and not bottomed out in the case.

Those that failed.

1.Glock 19 9mm

2. Glock 17 9mm

3. Glock 21 .45

4. CZ75 9mm

5. German Luger 9mm

6. Seecamp .32 (both passed and failed). Failed when trigger was pulled slowly but passed when trigger was pulled quickly. This was due to the nature of its double action design.

Those that passed

1. Browning High Power T Series (2 examples) 9mm

2, Browning High Power MIII 9mm

3. Star Model 30 9mm

4. Star starlight 9mm

5. Beretta 92 Italian 9mm

6. Beretta 92 American 92 9mm

7. Walther p5 9mm

8. Walther p39 9mm

9. Walther German .380

10. Walther P99 9mm (striker fired)

11. Seecamp .32 ( failed when trigger was pulled slowly but passed when trigger was pulled quickly. This was due to the nature of its double action design.)

12. Colt 1911 .45 acp Series 70

13. Sig p220 .45 acp

14. Sig p226 9mm

14. Browning .25acp (striker fired)

IN the case of the CZ 75 I think that the factory wanted ensure that their guns had a light trigger pull but did not want to do it the right way by hand fitting the sear and hammer. The trigger pull is pretty gritty on most of the CZ's stock guns (not race guns) that I have examined or fired. Instead they chose the easy way out by lightening up the main spring. Let's face it their is plenty of room in the CZ to lengthen the mainspring or even increase the diameter of the coils which would ensure more reliable ignition and still not louse up the trigger pull.


In the case of the P99, Walther proved that you can have a striker fired gun that has a good trigger pull and still be reliable enough to detonate a weak or high primer.

The firing pin engergy of the Walther p99 seemed to be weaker
than some of the stronger hammer powered guns like the 1911 but it was still strong enough to do the job and ignite the primer.


Time did not allow me to test more ( I work for a living) but I thought that some of you out there would find this test most interesting.

Lets face facts a weapon that will function with defective ammo is a much better weapon to trust your life to than one that has marginal reliabilty of ignition and must be used with perfect ammo in order to function. W.R.
 
PUHLEASE............

I'm tired of this crap too, so why don't we all just not bother posting anything on this one.:barf:
 
ummmm....

NO ONE CARES!!!

I can't believe you didn't realize this after the last thread. Your so called 'test' does not mimic ANY real world situation that a RESPONSIBLE gun owner would encounter. You are an accident waiting to happen...and you are going to give some liberal news reporter something to talk about. STOP with the stupid tests!

Kel
 
About the only way I can see this test applying to the real world is in this scenario.

Flesh Eating Aliens from another planet invade the earth. You grab every bit of ammo you got and shoot your way throught the hordes of foul beasts. As a safe haven against the invading horde you choose to hold up at the local firing range where other well armed people might meet to hunker down. You shoot your entire stash of high quality defensive and target ammo but the armies "SSethh" Lord of the Flesh Eaters are still advacing........ In a last ditch effor to survive you look around for................the live ammo disposal bucket for crap a$$ reloads that's near the latrine.
Needless to say your crappy ammo inclined pistol allows you hold off a few more of the creepy carnivores before you are consumed just like the rest of the resisters.

Anyway,
barring that scenario, I'll feel comfortable with a striker fired Glock or anything else I'm proficient with.
 
HEY

This bandwidth isn't free and it isn't yours. Anybody who brags about getting a Glock or a CZ-75 NOT to fire by feeding it defective ammo is not my idea of a weapons information source. Whatever your deal is, we would like to be left out.

Give it a rest indeed. Don't bother responding please. I won't see it anyway.
 
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Huh?!

Who let the dogs out! Huh! Huh!

That songs makes about as much sense of WR's "experiments" contrived to bash Glock.

Betcha Mr Gaston Glock is quaking in his hand made Gucci shoes at the thought that WR is going to bring down his sales. if I were Mr Glock and I had a foe like WR I'd sell the helicopter, the house on Lake Cuomo and everything else I owned because sales will come crashing down any minute now. :rolleyes:
 
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